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#401 battleship

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:48 AM

I am surprised the conclusion still lingers on.Met the big brass at expo a few weeks ago.Lovely presentation.When asked why they frustrate their shareholders with no news, they replied that their frustration was worse than our.They must wait  for conclusion to announce what they are achieving.3 weeks ago,they expected written sars confirmation äny day from now" Is this a concern?dont know, it should be ok as it was verbally approved.?

 

Regarding the grindstone FREE service.Not True .They are paid by donors (given government incentives).The perks and business model is not what this forum made it to look like.

 

Its painful.....but all we can do is ...............WAIT


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 08:28 PM

Renewed cautionary....BBB (Bullshit Baffles Brains) as Battleship said shut up and wait! What about the other creditors? 


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Posted 11 February 2015 - 03:52 PM

Activity on this share has dwindled .The catalyst will be written confirmation from SARS that the problem is concluded.They have verbal agreement from a long time ago,but this is not good enough to make acquisitions,rebrand,etc.There is nothing more to say.................just wait


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 03:03 PM

It is like asking a barber if you need a haircut. Why are they great? Because they say so and who are you to disagree.

 

 

Management made it clear that they will not invest in SME' as per their vision before the SARS issue has been resolved; the cautionary still stands. (now 10 weeks since SARS communicated a settlement with Afdawn) 

 

 

Secondly they focus on the Grindstone model of 'nurturing' free of charge scale-up companies; the Wikipedia definition of a scale-up is a Scale-up company or  Scale-up is a business looking to grow/expand in terms of: market access, revenues, added value or number of employees – in particular, identifying and realizing win-win opportunities for collaboration between market leaders and market disruptors.. Their main source of potential income is ad hoc fees from these scale-ups i.e. exits or funding arrangements. This may be anything from R 1 million to R 2 million for the year. 

 

Thirdly it has been stated on many occasions that they will first get Elite market ready before they will endeavour to sell it. They did mentioned the possibility of asset stripping this ‘dog’. I actually think that the CEO is enjoying the ‘financial services’ element off Elite and the above is just to keep shareholders at bay.

    

It is up to each shareholder to decide if the above is the making of a ‘sexy’ business model? Regarding the KC vendors getting their shares for 10 cents per share; this is not the total story as they are getting R 1.4 million in cash impacting on the share consideration price and the management of KC also got salary increases of 50% when joining Afdawn – for their special expertise, they are thus double dipping.

 

 

All the above can be found in the various SENS announcements and what was presented at the AGM and private discussions. Also that there are other pending risks such as NHCF etc.     


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 02:09 PM

You are right.Not a single peep from the Joburg Exco.Maybe no-one from this forum attended?

 

I am not too worried though.  They got their shares at 10 cents... and with all the bottle popping I am sure it is worth much more than that from their perspective.


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 02:04 PM

Make sure to spike their drinks first.  Looks like we aint gettin nothin out of these guys at the moment.

You are right.Not a single peep from the Joburg Exco.Maybe no-one from this forum attended?


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 01:48 PM

Durban expo afdawn meeting is at Havanna Grill at Suncoast Casino North Beach fron 6,30-8,30pm.

 

Suggest you contact Chanell to inform her.My wife needs to be fetched from airport at the same time,but must make a plan.Desperate to meet the team and ask them the three big questions.

Make sure to spike their drinks first.  Looks like we aint gettin nothin out of these guys at the moment.


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

Durban expo afdawn meeting is at Havanna Grill at Suncoast Casino North Beach fron 6,30-8,30pm.

 

Suggest you contact Chanell to inform her.My wife needs to be fetched from airport at the same time,but must make a plan.Desperate to meet the team and ask them the three big questions.


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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:26 AM

Anybody with some good news from last evening? 


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 10:07 PM

Apologies

 

Its Chanell   and email is    chanell@knifecap.com   (double l)


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 10:03 PM

Dear Durbanites

 

Chanel (chanel@knifecap.com) replied that she has added me to the list for the meeting.The venue(and time) are not confirmed yet.

Give her a mail!

 

This is for the exco meeting in durbs on 9 Feb 2015


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:18 PM

Why don't they just post the information on the web site? 


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:16 PM

will do Queen B.Emailed both info@afdawn.co.za and info@knifecap.com


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:07 PM

I'm in Durban Battle

Would like to be at that Exco

Let me know if you get any feedback


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:06 PM

Battleship your such a great shareholder.....always see the potential upside. Valuing Afdawn' share price is a mystery. NAV, DCF, P/E or growth perception?

 

Has he done other acquisitions? I think I have missed that.

 

Please share feedback re Exco shareholder meeting with us.   


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:01 PM

I emailed knife capital to get info on the Durban EXCO social meetup on 9 February.Lets see????

Regarding tweets........Jacques Groenewald said Buying to knifecapital was one of the best investments he has ever made.The other are all very celebratory and positive...................................The apparent transparicy is appreciated.

 

HOWEVER, HOW CAN THE 8/9C SHAREPRICE BE JUSTIFIED?

I may be gullible ,but a  substantial price increase soon seems what must be?


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 03:12 PM

What is this all about? I see Tweets reffering you to the web site for information but the Button only indicates the dates of these social meetings with the Exco. At least the shareholders can now join in the party mode; hope they will have some champagne to celebrate? They make it difficult to attend as with the AGM in December. (last minute no information)  

 

Interesting tweets from the CEO - very upbeat about the deal that he has done...


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 11:22 AM

Anyone off to the informal exco meeting with shareholders in Jozi tonight?  


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 11:59 AM

2,4 million traded this morning.something must be cooking!


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:43 PM

Don't be serious, it is only money....

 

Afdawn is working to establish their new Brand as announced at the AGM; pay-off line something like 'don't worry be happy...we can always have a party!' 

 

The Afdawn management is a very shrewd bunch; they managed to get a R 21 million sponsorship from shareholders to play around with. All questions are swept under the carpet as management bashing - watch this space.

 

They are also working on their business model which is now becoming clear. 'Pirates of the High Seas' (ELITE GROUP) harvesting money from the un-bankable poor mostly from Gauteng at 25% plus per year. Then they channel this by means of the 'New Age Robin Hood' approach to their privileged associates in the Cape. (GRINDSTONE PROJECT)

 

On a more serious note their may well be a reason to celebrate when they announce the update of the Trading Statement update announcing the aggressive growth. So don't worry be happy this is after all a jolly team.

 

   


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