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[yusufm]

probably a bookover between them

I see, thanks for the help 

[HDB]

Yip, noticed it before. So the price has no significance then? (It should be noted that CVN has proposed to buy 17.64% of DGC at the equivalent price of 250cps)

probably a bookover between them

[yusufm]

You see plenty of these trades going through after 5pm too...added to volumes but price not considered as closing price!!

Lets say its a trade between buddies at a price agreed between them!!

Yip, I have noticed it before  . So the price has no significance then? (It should be noted that CVN has proposed to buy 17.64% of DGC at the equivalent price of 250cps)

Edited by yusufm1, 11 September 2014 - 02:14 PM.

[HDB]

Wasn't sure under which topic to put this:

 

Can anyone explain the 5 000 000 share trade that went through at 10:59 and why it did not reflect in the volume traded for the day? Also it went though at a significant premium to the ruling price...

You see plenty of these trades going through after 5pm too...added to volumes but price not considered as closing price!!

Lets say its a trade between buddies at a price agreed between them!!

[HDB]

Wasn't sure under which topic to put this:

 

Can anyone explain the 5 000 000 share trade that went through at 10:59 and why it did not reflect in the volume traded for the day? Also it went though at a significant premium to the ruling price...

read the last post by JJBen on the HDB CCI thread...explained properly there...Its a book over off market trade!!

Edited by HDB, 11 September 2014 - 01:55 PM.

[yusufm]

Wasn't sure under which topic to put this:

 

Can anyone explain the 5 000 000 share trade that went through at 10:59 and why it did not reflect in the volume traded for the day? Also it went though at a significant premium to the ruling price...

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[zombii]

Is it fair for me to assume that today's drop in the ALSI is as a result of the drop in the US markets (which was sparked on fears that the Fed might hike interest rates)? If that's the case, can someone please explain to me why an interest rate hike in the US should affect a non-US market? Are the majority of the sellers US-based sellers? Or is it just a case of monkey-see-monkey-do, where everyone in the world reacts just because the US reacts?

[delta66]

Of cos it could also have been a bookover between 2 brokers/hedge fund managers!!

yes

[HDB]

ya thats kind of how I understand it but I cant grasp the tecnical side behind it. Do they put it through with JSE? seperate? how does it not get mixed up with all the other orders out there? f#$% me I feel stupid now

all bookover shares and ssfs has to go through the JSE

[HDB]

remember the hand s is one the most important and best tools to use for ta's

 

80% of them play out and once again this has to be a tool for the nuts and bolts of Alsi thread...

 

My question is :

 

Why does the h&s play out right to target price??If it breaks neckline, why will shorters continue to short it even to the last point to the target? Surely those last few points wil not earn any profit????

 

Im double posting this...

[Ettas]

I told u that 2000 was a MM trade balancing his books,....It never moved the index and none of the underlying shares moved!!

 

Of cos it could also have been a bookover between 2 brokers/hedge fund managers!!

ya thats kind of how I understand it but I cant grasp the tecnical side behind it. Do they put it through with JSE? seperate? how does it not get mixed up with all the other orders out there? f#$% me I feel stupid now

[HDB]

but I still struggle to understand how they get 2000 through at once

I told u that 2000 was a MM trade balancing his books,....It never moved the index and none of the underlying shares moved!!

 

Of cos it could also have been a bookover between 2 brokers/hedge fund managers!!

[Ettas]

That's my OUV call every morning...

but I still struggle to understand how they get 2000 through at once

[HDB]

can you go a bit more in depth with that statement in terms of how they do it on safex?

 

An investment strategy that attempts to profit from the differences between actual and theoretical futures prices of the same stock index. This is done by simultaneously buying (or selling) a stock index future while selling (or buying) the stocks in that index.This is done with program trading. Using software that monitors both a stock index and futures contracts on the index, traders can be notified when there is a larger than normal gap.

That's my OUV call every morning...

 

except that I don't buy the stocks but benefit from the opening "GAP" when I calculate the value or market capt of the stocks in the index!!

Edited by HDB, 08 September 2014 - 12:20 PM.

[HDB]

here is BIL,CFR and NPN.....im stuck in some ugly shorts after you blood ion the streets speech this morning!! hope it turns!

isn't those shorts beautiful now?

[schumdl]

definitely not!!

 

Clue...We going up right when we all said its a short...

 

Just think about this and it will answer a few other questions asked earlier on...including Ettas 2000 volume trade that came in last week..I asked Ettas to send the graph of BIL and CFR...There was a reason for this request because I know for sure BIL and CFR did not move when that trade went through.....

MMs?

[Ettas]

It is called index arbitrage...large banks do it all day long...

can you go a bit more in depth with that statement in terms of how they do it on safex?

 

An investment strategy that attempts to profit from the differences between actual and theoretical futures prices of the same stock index. This is done by simultaneously buying (or selling) a stock index future while selling (or buying) the stocks in that index.This is done with program trading. Using software that monitors both a stock index and futures contracts on the index, traders can be notified when there is a larger than normal gap.

[RBM]

trend is down, this is for sure a bull trap!!

Edited by RBM, 08 September 2014 - 10:19 AM.

[RBM]

trend is down, this is for sure a bull trap!!

Edited by RBM, 08 September 2014 - 10:18 AM.

[Ettas]

definitely not!!

 

Clue...We going up right when we all said its a short...

 

Just think about this and it will answer a few other questions asked earlier on...including Ettas 2000 volume trade that came in last week..I asked Ettas to send the graph of BIL and CFR...There was a reason for this request because I know for sure BIL and CFR did not move when that trade went through.....

here is BIL,CFR and NPN.....im stuck in some ugly shorts after you blood ion the streets speech this morning!! hope it turns!

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