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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35629] Fri, 08 May 2009 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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We have been quiet on JBL for a looong time.
It really makes me quite (.....) to see it jump like this.
Even way outperforming WEZ!
Wonder what the news could be? Surely not (only) the platinum price?!
Why I am hurting is that I started buying above R10, still HOLDing, but I never bothered to average down at the R1 levels.
Thought it was still too early.
And now I am not sure that it is still timely to buy....
But then again I hardly remember these sort of volumes.
What you say TimmyT. I remember us still talking about accumulating close to R10 on the way down.... lol


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35630] Fri, 08 May 2009 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vortex  South Africa
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I Hold quite a lot of both wesizwe and Jubilee and was wondering what to buy to bring averages down? Very Happy
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35636] Fri, 08 May 2009 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscar  South Africa
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JUBILEE should never have traded at 1.00. Way to cheap.
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35638] Fri, 08 May 2009 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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Don't know at all.
Out of WEZ since R12 odd levels.
Don't see much being mentioned about WEZ (anymore) either.
Got the impression that all the former WEZ followers had lost patience with and trust in the management of that company.
Also management have already committed significant funds in the WEZ project and were then hit by the big "mess".
JBL, on the other hand, remains basically pie in the sky. No heavy commitments in the projects yet. Not much running costs on a monthly basis sort of.
And location still good.....
We need some inside/insight perhaps.
Is the latest move based on any "news" (to borrow the old WEZ thinking), or is it just a temporary move with retracement around the corner.
I do not know at all (wish I did, though).
Good luck.


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35641] Fri, 08 May 2009 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bulletjie09  South Africa
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Vortex wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:37
I Hold quite a lot of both wesizwe and Jubilee and was wondering what to buy to bring averages down? Very Happy


Suppose you should then buy WESIZWE and JUBILEE? Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35674] Mon, 11 May 2009 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shiny bright
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Do you think i can still get on the wagon, or is it to late??
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35675] Mon, 11 May 2009 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vortex  South Africa
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it has run hard of late,would wait for it to pull back a bit first!
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #35686] Mon, 11 May 2009 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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If it were to drop to below R2 at any stage, I will buy a bundle..... Cool


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36647] Mon, 01 June 2009 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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Interesting.
Both JBL and WEZ bottomed around R1.00.
JBL now up at R3.63 and WEZ at R1.87.
JBL therefore clearly outperformed WEZ!
Now I am wondering what the reason is.
Does it mean that there is some positive news in the pipeline or is it simply that JBL was beaten down more severly/unfairly than WEZ?
WEZ is after all in the process of sinking a mine, whereas JBL has nothing to show. Or is that partly) the reason; JBL not spending/having spent money and therefore not losing money either....
Rolling Eyes


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36784] Wed, 03 June 2009 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vortex  South Africa
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how hard can Jubilee run? Must be a good time to take profits? what you guys think? sell half? Very Happy
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36786] Wed, 03 June 2009 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CPD  South Africa
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The Platinum price is heading North now at $1256


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36859] Thu, 04 June 2009 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nosh  South Africa
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this is crazy

been looking at this share for the past few days and keep saying that it can't go any higher and it does! looked at it a few minutes ago at R5 and now R6.80!
what's up?

Nosh
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36860] Thu, 04 June 2009 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vortex  South Africa
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I SOLD AT R6.60, VERY RELEIVED. Made a small loss as i bought at R7.75 long time ago. will buy back in later on!
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36865] Thu, 04 June 2009 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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Like the wise men say.... Buy the trend....!
Cool Cool Cool
Ps. I am not selling. Aiming for R9 plus.... Twisted Evil Hope a pull-back to R1 does not come before that.
Rolling Eyes
Averaged down at R2.40 odd. Now can kick myself for not buying more!!
Patience, patience.... the JBL style day of SIM, UUU, CAE, PAN etc will still come.

[Updated on: Thu, 04 June 2009 16:24]


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36871] Thu, 04 June 2009 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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Good news.... dated 4 June.

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page504?oid=8 4385&sn=Detail


Jubilee Platinum progresses project to feasibility

This comes after a report indicated that the project could possibly contain an attributable 44 million ounces of platinum-group elements and gold.

Author: Reuters
Posted: Thursday , 04 Jun 2009

Jubilee Platinum Plc (JLP.L) said it would proceed to a feasibility study of the Tjate project in South Africa after a report indicated that the project could possibly contain an attributable 44 million ounces of platinum-group elements (PGE) and gold.

"The company calculates an attributable value at prevailing market prices of $30 billion to the aforementioned possible metal, for which the viability of its recovery has yet to be established in future studies as the project develops," Jubilee said on Thursday.

The mining exploration and development company said the results from the mineral resource statement gives it the confidence to proceed to feasibility study and if appropriate development.


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36874] Thu, 04 June 2009 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SHOOTER  South Africa
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Now very happy I held my shares and added at lower level.
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #36875] Thu, 04 June 2009 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pothole  South Africa
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No comment......

TimmyT wrote on Thu, 03 July 2008 23:21
Patience Pothole, patience!

Feasibility study should be complete in 6 months or so, then a final Board decision, (which at current prices will be a definite go ahead) then the mine can be developed. This takes about 2 years or so depending on the depth of the mine (Tjate mine is about 1200m or so), then a steady ramp up to full production.

At current prices the mine has a NPV of $4 billion (60% owned by Jubilee) = close to R20 billion. Jubilee's current market cap = R800 million.

All things being equal R7.50 now should be over R200 in 4-5 years time. Can you wait that long????


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Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #37032] Tue, 09 June 2009 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
devan  South Africa
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so why is this share going down??
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #37033] Tue, 09 June 2009 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lara3
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why did it go up so much in the first place?
Re: Jubilee Platinum - JBL [message #37034] Tue, 09 June 2009 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Pothole  South Africa
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My guess....
- It had an amazing run from almost R1 to R7 plus.
- It was TOTALLY undervalued at R1 odd.
- Platinum price is down somewhat, now, short term.
- Profit taking by those who were part of the run.
- There might be some news behind the run UP that we are not aware of...... remember the old issue of their assests' location (vis-a-vis some of the majors)!! as well as the very recent news regarding their projected reserves as well....
Cool
Ps. Might be interesting to compare the trading patterns of JBL and WEZ. There were some similarities in the past. Could perhaps be used to make predictions re muitual catch-up, eitker up or down....
Good luck!
Pps. Look at the small volume sales DOWN. It seems like some entity/ies want to create a sell trend, into which they can buy, perhaps? Knock over those stop loss dominoes? Once over-sold I think JBL will be a good buy (again). But who knows...... Confused

[Updated on: Tue, 09 June 2009 10:33]


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