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Re: SAP [message #34182]

Thu, 19 March 2009 10:06

Cusbray

Messages: 58
Registered: August 2008
Location: Cape Town

Member

Bulls, did you get into TELKOM yesterday. I see it is finally beginning a resurrection ride!

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Re: SAP [message #34312]

Fri, 20 March 2009 18:15

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

Wonder who traded the large volume at close today at such a price Surprised

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Re: SAP [message #34334]

Fri, 20 March 2009 20:20

Bulletjie09

Messages: 562
Registered: January 2009

Senior Member

It is probably the auction price - from 16:50 till 17:00 the JSE is in auction mode. Do a search on 'JSE Auction' there is a document available describing the procedure.

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Re: SAP [message #34337]

Fri, 20 March 2009 22:12

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

Thanks - find it strange though that the volume traded was more than the last 3 days put together over 9mill compared to an average of about 2mill per day. Dropped the price significantly as well.....

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Re: SAP [message #34340]

Fri, 20 March 2009 23:13

Bulletjie09

Messages: 562
Registered: January 2009

Senior Member

Yes, I see what you mean. Should test support at 1350 next week.

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Re: SAP [message #34961]

Tue, 14 April 2009 18:39

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

I see SAP is back up to the 2100 level as it was a month ago - what is the chance of it breaking through the level this time or will it revert back to its 1800-1900 level?

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Re: SAP [message #35310]

Wed, 29 April 2009 13:28

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

Anybody got any good feelings about Sappi?
Their quarterly results are published next week and their share is still sitting in the 1850 to 1950 range.

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Re: SAP [message #35313]

Wed, 29 April 2009 14:59

Cut Loss

Messages: 314
Registered: July 2008
Location: PTA

Senior Member

The prospects for the group do not look very bright with margin and volume pressure practically on all continents, although Europe margins are still not to bad. Deutsche Bank has given the share a valuation of 2500cps
from www.sharetips.co.za

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Re: SAP [message #35314]

Wed, 29 April 2009 15:42

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

thanks for your thoughts

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Re: SAP [message #35315]

Wed, 29 April 2009 15:59

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

I see that the article in sharetips was written at the start of Feb.
Maybe things are looking better now? or worse?
Quiet a few newspapers have folded this year already....

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Re: SAP [message #35317]

Wed, 29 April 2009 16:25

Cut Loss

Messages: 314
Registered: July 2008
Location: PTA

Senior Member

Commodities are picking up and SAP shows a up-trend. I sometimes buy a share like this just for that reason and hope that the other buyers suffered through the financials. I do hear rumours that some directors are willing to miss a pay cheque (R 750 000 for two directors per month) so the next result might not be good at SAPPI.

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Re: SAP [message #35352]

Thu, 30 April 2009 15:24

mgorila

Messages: 134
Registered: March 2009
Location: Not USA...

Senior Member

looking good today, lets hope it continues!! Very Happy

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Re: SAP [message #35356]

Thu, 30 April 2009 16:30

Garylee

Messages: 27
Registered: August 2008
Location: Johannesburg

Junior Member

Should move up.In S.A schoolbooks should grow and they are the only supplies beside imports

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Re: SAP [message #35357]

Thu, 30 April 2009 16:53

digi_dav

Messages: 17
Registered: March 2009

Junior Member

I'm thinking bull to 26-27 Monday. Then hit resistance and short play?

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Re: SAP [message #35455]

Mon, 04 May 2009 12:40

digi_dav

Messages: 17
Registered: March 2009

Junior Member

I want 27, what do you guys think? What are your comments? How will results impact?

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Re: SAP [message #35490]

Tue, 05 May 2009 14:13

Cut Loss

Messages: 314
Registered: July 2008
Location: PTA

Senior Member

I don't like the results - back to R15?

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Re: SAP [message #35514]

Wed, 06 May 2009 12:59

Cusbray

Messages: 58
Registered: August 2008
Location: Cape Town

Member

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, all the way to the Bank. I saw it coming!!!!

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Re: SAP [message #38416]

Wed, 08 July 2009 15:39

Cut Loss

Messages: 314
Registered: July 2008
Location: PTA

Senior Member

SAPPI refinancing at a high debt:equity of 144. I see MONDY is mothballing and retrenching at a debt:equity of 41.

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Re: SAP [message #38770]

Mon, 20 July 2009 18:53

Cut Loss

Messages: 314
Registered: July 2008
Location: PTA

Senior Member

Moody's rating:Overall, Sappi's debt is rated Ba3 - in a word, trash.

If an Aaa rating is like lending money to your accountant father, then Ba3 is like lending money to your deadbeat, unemployed younger brother. Poor Sappi.

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