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Dealstream down? [message #29294] Mon, 22 September 2008 16:06 Go to next message
tank  South Africa
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Dealstream down?
Sep 22 2008 2:55PM
Marc Ashton
Johannesburg - Investors who conduct their business through derivatives trader Dealstream are not amused as its trading platform appears to have closed up shop.
Dealstream is a Melrose Arch-based derivatives trading company that offers investors opportunities to trade single-stock futures (SSFs) and contracts for difference (CFDs) via its web-based platform.

The company is run by Russell Leigh, a regular market commentator for many financial publications.

The company included Argil Venture Capital as an investor. Argil is a fund manager owned by auditing firm Ernst & Young Southern Africa and Worldwide African Investment Holdings. Its first venture is an innovation and technology fund, which was launched with R100m in investment capital.

After requests from readers to investigate Dealstream, Fin24.com attempted to call Leigh's office and cellphone numbers, with no luck. A visit to the Dealstream offices showed that nobody was home.

"What is disconcerting is the lack of information from the company," said an investor who contacted Fin24.com.

According to another investor, warning flags were raised last week: "On Wednesday afternoon, the system was online but trades were not going through. They said they would enter them for us but one could not see if trades went through or not.

"Thursday was the same. By Friday afternoon, the system went off line 'due to technical difficulties' and this morning the site remains offline."

Trade in SSFs is managed by the JSE. However, its director of trading, Allan Thomson, did not return Fin24.com's telephone calls or e-mails relating to Dealstream.
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29302] Mon, 22 September 2008 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CHOSENBYHIM  South Africa
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Greetings and salutations!

C???

Ive been using Dealstream for a couple months and havnt had too many problems, but noticed from wednesday things were a little odd. Couldnt get through to their offices and still havnt been able to contact them...

I have 4 cell phone numbers of i presume Dealstream brokers, and they too arnt been answered. What happens to the cash in my trust account with them???

can anyone assist me on the process from here with regards to dealstream??
Thanks,

Wesco
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29317] Tue, 23 September 2008 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benyzk  South Africa
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so in short what will happen to us the investors of the company? what will happen to our margins? for example i had closed most of my margins quite by chance and i was about to close my last one when i was suddenly kicked on friday i am guessing that this is when the problem started.. so will i lose the whole amount i have invested in dealstream? or the unclosed margin that is still held in a cfd? or will trading at some point continue? is it the end of dealstream? i have repeatedly tried to make contact with them to no avail and needless to say i am very worried.. please any reliable information will be greatly appreciated..
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29318] Tue, 23 September 2008 01:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vic  Australia
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Just another bucket shop going under. I'm still trying to figure out why on earth people want to trade in an unregulated and unguaranteed product like a CFD. It's absolutely crazy.

Warrants and CFD's are dangerous products. You're betting against the market maker and the few traders in a very small pool. And the market maker has the advantage over everyone.

It's like playing poker with your cards facing your opponent.
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29321] Tue, 23 September 2008 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitri  South Africa
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vic wrote on Tue, 23 September 2008 01:01

Just another bucket shop going under. I'm still trying to figure out why on earth people want to trade in an unregulated and unguaranteed product like a CFD. It's absolutely crazy.

Warrants and CFD's are dangerous products. You're betting against the market maker and the few traders in a very small pool. And the market maker has the advantage over everyone.

It's like playing poker with your cards facing your opponent.



Laughing nice analogy
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29324] Tue, 23 September 2008 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leo1  South Africa
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ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING DEALSTREAM SECURITIES
Vox has been made aware that Dealstream Securities ("Dealstream") has ceased
trading and that Dealstream`s positions in Vox securities have been assumed by
one of Dealstream`s counterparties.
Vox has had discussions with this counterparty aimed at facilitating an orderly
take up of these Vox securities with, inter alia, those parties who held
interests in the Company`s securities. Many of these parties may have claims
against Dealstream and appropriate action and claims are being considered by
these parties.
Vox has not entered into any contracts in which it has any liability to
Dealstream, however Dealstream holds Vox cash of approximately R30m, the
recoverability of which the Company believes has now been materially prejudiced.
Vox is taking legal advice in regard hereto. This amount, if unrecoverable, will
not impact the delivery of services to Vox customers.
The Company holds no open derivative positions in Vox securities. The Company is
also aware that its staff hold accounts with Dealstream, none of which, to the
best of the Company`s knowledge, were in default of their margin requirements at
the time Dealstream ceased trading.
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29357] Tue, 23 September 2008 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benyzk  South Africa
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So to the former clients of dealstream.. is it possible to view the balance of our Investec accounts?
http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com [message #29389] Thu, 25 September 2008 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxflow  South Africa
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If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29390] Thu, 25 September 2008 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxflow  South Africa
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If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com
If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com [message #29392] Thu, 25 September 2008 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxflow  South Africa
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If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com
If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com [message #29393] Thu, 25 September 2008 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxflow  South Africa
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If you were defrauded by Dealstream go here http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29396] Thu, 25 September 2008 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxflow  South Africa
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http://dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com/
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29397] Thu, 25 September 2008 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zudemans  South Africa
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Can someone please do something about the retard spamming the forum! Mad

So you got scammed, tough [please be nice]! Learn from it and move on. this is a constructive forum, for people with real opinions and enough brainpower to put those opinions forward clearly.

Not a toilet door to put your own phone number on!
Re: Dealstream down? [message #29398] Thu, 25 September 2008 16:46 Go to previous message
DfD  South Africa
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Hear Hear! Stealstream is a matter for the cops now - not the sharechat forum
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