Does anyone know if it's still trading under a cautionary??
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:57 PM
Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:55 AM
Hi Guys
Just been reading all about the DJ deal and Lew in the mix to get his share...the massive move in country road this year and how it all affects the DJ deal. Who has a better view or opinion on this? I think that even if we pay a little more for it, itll allow them to loose a thorn in woolies side and at the same time set up better opportunity for international competition!
Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:08 PM
Thanks for that bit of info
Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:59 AM
Anyone know of when the rights issue comes in?
It was supposed to be the last week of May.
And is it as simple as making a profit if one is in a short position when the rights issue comes into play?
No your account will be decreased by the value of the rights that would've been issued had you received them, or the number of cfds that you own will be decreased. Usually the latter.
Also I'm not sure but it does not appear as if the rights offer has been finalised as yet. (If it has can someone point me in the direction of the article?).
" The Equity Bridge Funding is expected to be repaid out of the proceeds of an
underwritten renounceable rights offer proposed to be undertaken by the
Company (the ?Proposed Rights Offer?). WHL intends to commence the
Proposed Rights Offer after the Proposed Acquisition has been completed. The
Company will determine, in consultation with the Funders, the detailed terms of
the Proposed Rights Offer, including the amount of financing to be raised, the
offer price per share and number of shares to be issued taking into consideration
market conditions at such time, which details once finalised will be released on
SENS and will be set out in the Proposed Rights Offer circular to be posted to
WHL Shareholders in due course."
-From SENS on the 16 May 2014
Edited by yusufm1, 05 June 2014 - 12:04 PM.
Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:53 AM
Anyone know of when the rights issue comes in?
It was supposed to be the last week of May.
And is it as simple as making a profit if one is in a short position when the rights issue comes into play?
Posted 20 May 2014 - 09:15 PM
I decided to dispose of my Woolies shares basically for two reasons: (13.000 shares)
1. I am retired and do like to receive good (hopefully increasing) dividends every 6 months and I fear that Woolies may be needing the cash they previously paid out to shareholders to ensure that the deal in Australia is successful?
2. If we are optimistic the deal may well only bear fruit in 5 to ten years time so while it may be a good long term investment for younger guys it doesnt fit in with my strategy.
Woolies has been a great investment for me and I wish those that stay with the investment all the best in the future but now is the time for me to love you and leave you.
Well Grumpy Old Man, I believe you are not so grumpy having a million in your pocket right now, Woolworth RSI generated a sell signal on May 15th, so your timing for bailing was spot on - congratulations, well done.
Edited by M e r l i n, 20 May 2014 - 09:16 PM.
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Posted 19 May 2014 - 08:29 PM
I decided to dispose of my Woolies shares basically for two reasons: (13.000 shares)
1. I am retired and do like to receive good (hopefully increasing) dividends every 6 months and I fear that Woolies may be needing the cash they previously paid out to shareholders to ensure that the deal in Australia is successful?
2. If we are optimistic the deal may well only bear fruit in 5 to ten years time so while it may be a good long term investment for younger guys it doesnt fit in with my strategy.
Woolies has been a great investment for me and I wish those that stay with the investment all the best in the future but now is the time for me to love you and leave you.
Posted 19 May 2014 - 08:04 PM
Think he understands market...spent 12 years in Australia and CEO of CR...but time will tell.That's true but they've also taken share from the rest of the market. To some extent this is easy since in its food category Woolies has little to no competition. It's an aspirational place to shop so as people can afford it they buy there. The general rise of the black middle class has been a big factor here and that macro trend is still far from done so in SA there is much growth in the tank, despite the interest rate and despite the lower LSMs being under pressure. Remember that the better off you are the less subject to rate rises you are...though not entirely immune. A very sharp spike in rates will probably hurt Woolies bad as the bottom of their consumer base drops back into SHP and PNP etc.As for clothing, this has been where management has really excelled over the past few years. Today's range is a far cry from the dour shite they were selling a few years ago. Again they have it spot on here in that they have aligned their clothing brands to their general consumers, mainly wannabe trendy aspirational women. Can they do it in Oz? I've no idea...I just hope Moir understands the market well enough to do it.
Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:16 PM
I back management... Yes!! However the past 5years was cyclical, low interest, rate consumer demand driven phase.
So in good times things normally go well... Like my 1.3 corolla going downhill, only realise what a donkey it is when when the uphill comes.
Management did well on the downhill, will have to see how the challenge unfolds.
For now that resistance around R80 - R82 still holding
That's true but they've also taken share from the rest of the market. To some extent this is easy since in its food category Woolies has little to no competition. It's an aspirational place to shop so as people can afford it they buy there. The general rise of the black middle class has been a big factor here and that macro trend is still far from done so in SA there is much growth in the tank, despite the interest rate and despite the lower LSMs being under pressure. Remember that the better off you are the less subject to rate rises you are...though not entirely immune. A very sharp spike in rates will probably hurt Woolies bad as the bottom of their consumer base drops back into SHP and PNP etc.As for clothing, this has been where management has really excelled over the past few years. Today's range is a far cry from the dour shite they were selling a few years ago. Again they have it spot on here in that they have aligned their clothing brands to their general consumers, mainly wannabe trendy aspirational women. Can they do it in Oz? I've no idea...I just hope Moir understands the market well enough to do it.
Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:30 PM
Posted 19 May 2014 - 04:58 PM
Any views on Fridays announcement and lifting of cautionary..
It seems the R23b will be financed as ff:
R10b cash
R4b loan from Ausie bank
R9b rights issue
In effect diluting NAV by 6.8%, or earnings by 35%
The financing is less of an issue in my view. Doesn't seem like the balance sheet will be too stretched, with almost half the cash coming from fresh equity.
How those "synergies" are to be realised is what I'd be focused on. Do you back management?
Yes, I will take your money!
Posted 19 May 2014 - 01:06 PM
Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:07 PM
Problem seems to be the size of the rights issue that they effect to generate the capital required for the deal. Uncertainty is making everyone worried.
Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:02 PM
David Jones (DSJ on the ASX) - Largest department store in Australia.
Expensive deal in my opinion ($2bn). Paying a P/E of 22.5x for the business.
CEO mentioned that they expect synergies of $130m a year. If you assume they paid away half those synergies at 18x, then they are acquiring the current business at 12x... which makes it look a bit more reasonable.
Since this deal represents 40% of Woolworths current market cap, one is backing management heavily as everything hinges on their ability to deliver those synergies.
Wonder how the market will see it, but I'd be slightly cautious.
That said, watch the share price run 20% over the next two days.
Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:36 PM
I has de-ja-vu feeling ala Tigerbrands acquisition of Dangote couple years back.
No doubt management will pull it off me thinks it may just take a while.
It's a big chunk to digest at A$2bn....lots of chewing to be done for the next 18mths.
Cheers.
I'm backing them because they have some experience in the Ozzie market and furthermore they've proven their ability to deliver. But time will tell for sure. Big Deal, Big Risk, Big Reward.
Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:37 PM
I has de-ja-vu feeling ala Tigerbrands acquisition of Dangote couple years back.
No doubt management will pull it off me thinks it may just take a while.
It's a big chunk to digest at A$2bn....lots of chewing to be done for the next 18mths.
Cheers.
Anyone need a heads up...!
Posted 09 April 2014 - 02:45 PM
Just added a big chunk to my long term holdings at 6890