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#1 Jack5

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:56 PM

AVL announcing rights offer today, the price of the offer is surprising at 130c with the share currently trading at 118. Usually rights offers are priced at a discount. Why would someone take up the rights offer if they can buy it cheaper on the market?


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#2 Mr.Balls

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:12 PM

EPS/HEPS to decrease by more than 30%, Will be sitting on a PE of around 29.

Earnings is in line with the profit forecast as detailed in the prospectus.

I participated in the IPO, took a long term punt with a small percentage of my portfolio. Want to add to my existing holding, difficult to make a decision with such limited info. Really like the business model, but for now this is nothing more than a gamble.

Any thoughts?

The business model is good, but that P/E is too high,they need to increase earnings considerably to justify that P/E, I wont add at current levels and will wait for a pullback, looking to go long @ +- 130c


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#3 Stefan

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:59 PM

EPS/HEPS to decrease by more than 30%, Will be sitting on a PE of around 29.

Earnings is in line with the profit forecast as detailed in the prospectus.

I participated in the IPO, took a long term punt with a small percentage of my portfolio. Want to add to my existing holding, difficult to make a decision with such limited info. Really like the business model, but for now this is nothing more than a gamble.

Any thoughts?
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#4 Mr.Balls

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 10:08 AM

My guess:

Illiquid small cap that small retail investors are driving up. 

Could come back just as quickly when buyers dry up.

Looks like the momentum ran out...slowly coming back down to earth


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#5 gamma

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:35 AM

Still going strong, very surprised. Momentum seems to be on the positive side.

 

What are we missing here? The analysts sure got this one wrong.

 

My guess:

Illiquid small cap that small retail investors are driving up. 

Could come back just as quickly when buyers dry up.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:59 AM

Still going strong, very surprised. Momentum seems to be on the positive side.

 

What are we missing here? The analysts sure got this one wrong.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:24 PM

Down another 10% to 210, talk about a 'Yoyo'... Sell & take profit, this can go anywhere...
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#8 michaessers

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:58 AM

my guess is that this is heading back to around 160c. its been trading at crazy levels since listing.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 09:31 AM

Down 8%, is the party over?


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:43 AM

cdb999, it's too late to get in. No-one knows where this one is going, but logic seems to suggest that down is a lot more likely given it's brief history and the speculation out there (together with no mention of this in the prospectus and no cautionary from AVL or NTC or any related parties). We have also not had a profit taking period given the pop at the IPO.

 

I got out at 250c - couldn't sit and watch this one all day long.

 

shi, thanks, I got in at 1.50, and out at 2.30. but it keeps climbing.. and was thinking of getting back in.

 

but i hear you.

 

 




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#11 Shi

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:36 AM

cdb999, it's too late to get in. No-one knows where this one is going, but logic seems to suggest that down is a lot more likely given it's brief history and the speculation out there (together with no mention of this in the prospectus and no cautionary from AVL or NTC or any related parties). We have also not had a profit taking period given the pop at the IPO.

 

I got out at 250c - couldn't sit and watch this one all day long.


Edited by Shi, 22 May 2014 - 10:36 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:25 AM

Guys, is it a good idea to get in now.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:03 AM

I got in at 198. This is just what happened with POY. Price shot up into a lamp post and then plummeted. And is still plummeting. I love the growth I've received, but all it's going to take is for one of the big guys to pull their shares and the price will dive.


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#14 Mr.Balls

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:01 AM

Posted on Std Bank forum

 

"There are talks in the market that advanced health in talks to buy out Medicross and Lesedi Clinics . Anyone who has more information?  "

If this is so, shouldn't there be a cautionary if this will have an impact? Or is it just speculation? Damn I hope I was right about selling out, otherwise this train has left the station!


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#15 Goliath

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:01 AM

Posted on Std Bank forum

 

"There are talks in the market that advanced health in talks to buy out Medicross and Lesedi Clinics . Anyone who has more information?  "

 

Perhaps there is something we don't know but given current info we have I can't pathom why it would shoot up like this.. I'll wait on sidelines and regret it probably later but with current info can't jump in!


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:52 AM

Tjo! 200% up in a space of a month and going with no sign of tiring...
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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:38 AM

This is getting crazy now...2.94!


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:38 AM

Posted on Std Bank forum

 

"There are talks in the market that advanced health in talks to buy out Medicross and Lesedi Clinics . Anyone who has more information?  "


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:36 PM

Very little mention so far of two little words .... Long Term ... !

 

Why all the noise and drama with it's 175% climb to date if (I, for one) am interested in it's 2020 price...?

 

For sure it will be above 275 by then me thinks ...

 

 

 

 


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 01:03 PM

Medicos, going up because of ........ Takeover bid!

Nope, drugmakers are going up on back of potential M&A. NTC and MDC (hospitals) are both up on the back of very strong financial results.


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