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#12821 Beorn

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 07:54 AM

Good day to buy and hold, with Vix slowly going down, a lazy trading strategy (Simon Brown) might work for those with no time to stare at 5 different charts every 5 minutes, earnings from the US are beating forecasts (even Facebook ) , ebola is contained (in the US).
Just need a cool Christmas rally to end off the year. ( with no panic over interest rates ).


IMO, US performance was never the issue.
Ending of QE, interest rates and EU performance is the issue and still is.

That said, I think you are right with the rally coming the rest of the week.

I'm still liking my wounds of my short trade
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:22 PM

Good day to buy and hold, with Vix slowly going down, a lazy trading strategy (Simon Brown) might work for those with no time to stare at 5 different charts every 5 minutes, earnings from the US are beating forecasts (even Facebook ) , ebola is contained (in the US).

Just need a cool Christmas rally to end off the year. ( with no panic over interest rates ).


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:41 PM

I also hold the same view A! Maybe wrong, but I don't think the big bear is here yet, maybe early 2015.

 

My long lost longs of last week, beginning to look green. I'll try hold some for the long haul as well.

imo, another big bear is here. is early days, though.

 

first order of business should be to shake the early sellers, whipsaw them until they quit in disgust and with little money left. they also the bulk of liquidity suppliers and when they finally gone the real bear stuff becomes prime time.

 

unless you actually traded at least one major bear, the charts may be educational? the emotions at the time is something altogether different and i have yet to meet an immune trader. this includes 'mechanical' traders and bots. the systems gets tweaked most when they actually needs it least!

 

that said, i'm back to a regime of 75% of normal position size when going long and 25% when going short. my stops are much wider than normal as a result as i prefer to follow system rules rather than being stopped out.

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

Two words for any apparent recovery - Priced In...

 

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MSM et al presents (sponsored) opinion as fact and seeks to indoctrinate. Journalists without ethics proliferate in a swamp of filthy lucre (BBC inclusive).

In response to decades of racism by fearful minority whites called apartheid there will be an eternity of racism by revengeful majority blacks called all kinds of excuses.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:21 PM

P, just my view but for what is coming best to buy and hold, this think is going to explode up and nobody is going to believe it!!

 

I'm sitting tight now till beginning December or when she hits the top monthly bollingerband!

 

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Also if you notice she bounced nicely off her monthly middle Bollinger line. The big bear should have been able to take that one out in my opinion. So until the big bear arrives, buy it is...for now!


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:00 PM

P, just my view but for what is coming best to buy and hold, this think is going to explode up and nobody is going to believe it!!

 

I'm sitting tight now till beginning December or when she hits the top monthly bollingerband!

 

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I also hold the same view A! Maybe wrong, but I don't think the big bear is here yet, maybe early 2015.

 

My long lost longs of last week, beginning to look green. I'll try hold some for the long haul as well.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 03:33 PM

Feeling a bit frustrated. Missed this morning's run and the pullback entry opportunity due to a meeting. Missed second entry due to interruptions when I wanted to enter order. Feeling disconnected. Only 2 trades since last Thursday. Warrant wave account 15% up. Need to connect to market again, but tomorrow's developments ????

P, just my view but for what is coming best to buy and hold, this think is going to explode up and nobody is going to believe it!!

 

I'm sitting tight now till beginning December or when she hits the top monthly bollingerband!

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 02:57 PM

Feeling a bit frustrated. Missed this morning's run and the pullback entry opportunity due to a meeting. Missed second entry due to interruptions when I wanted to enter order. Feeling disconnected. Only 2 trades since last Thursday. Warrant wave account 15% up. Need to connect to market again, but tomorrow's developments ????
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:43 AM

On the same page of this article Goldman Sachs calling for new highs....lot of speculation but in the end proof will be in the pudding (tape)!

 

Got a feeling FED is going to kick of a rally of note catching most off guard....funds will not let their balance sheets end in the red and normally they push it up in a wild manner!

 

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Would like to see better alignment of global indices. US enthusiasm in face of ending QE is not being echoed.

And ALSI not yet up off its knees.

If a NYSE trader coughs the world will catch ebola.


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Africa will never be regarded as adult until all of its organisations stop admiring and protecting criminal dictators.

MSM et al presents (sponsored) opinion as fact and seeks to indoctrinate. Journalists without ethics proliferate in a swamp of filthy lucre (BBC inclusive).

In response to decades of racism by fearful minority whites called apartheid there will be an eternity of racism by revengeful majority blacks called all kinds of excuses.

Corruption is not yet compulsory but it may as well be - Aggressive africanization uses the racist Employment Equity Act as a club.

Too many humans are too busy copulating to bother about the irresponsible, unsustainable and progressively catastrophic population explosion. 

Whilst humanity prevails so will evil. Evil will survive and thrive through sophisticated indoctrination and other conscience-suppressing disguises.

Desmond Tutu has been praying for the downfall of the ANC since 2011. Clearly he needs some assistance with such a difficult and worthy task..

Cockroaches still lurk on sharechat because it is prime real estate for their con artistry, duping and grand theft.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:25 AM

If they continue or not (doubt they will not end it) markets will still push up!

 

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another thing is the big angst on rates rise expectation - what people are forgetting is that many of the big overseas companies are sitting on piles of cash giving big cushion against such interest expectations - meaning the angst reaction might be overdone 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:17 AM

I think the Fed will surprise and just continue with their current 10 of 15 Bn; let's see...

If they continue or not (doubt they will not end it) markets will still push up!

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 09:18 AM

I think the Fed will surprise and just continue with their current 10 of 15 Bn; let's see...

Pure speculation! given the current situation in the US (and Europe)


Edited by BBW, 28 October 2014 - 09:19 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 09:11 AM

I think the Fed will surprise and just continue with their current 10 of 15 Bn; let's see...


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 09:08 AM

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The wall is on the writing

 

http://tinyurl.com/o5bjpmg

On the same page of this article Goldman Sachs calling for new highs....lot of speculation but in the end proof will be in the pudding (tape)!

 

Got a feeling FED is going to kick of a rally of note catching most off guard....funds will not let their balance sheets end in the red and normally they push it up in a wild manner!

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 06:55 PM

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The wall is on the writing

 

http://tinyurl.com/o5bjpmg


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Africa will never be regarded as adult until all of its organisations stop admiring and protecting criminal dictators.

MSM et al presents (sponsored) opinion as fact and seeks to indoctrinate. Journalists without ethics proliferate in a swamp of filthy lucre (BBC inclusive).

In response to decades of racism by fearful minority whites called apartheid there will be an eternity of racism by revengeful majority blacks called all kinds of excuses.

Corruption is not yet compulsory but it may as well be - Aggressive africanization uses the racist Employment Equity Act as a club.

Too many humans are too busy copulating to bother about the irresponsible, unsustainable and progressively catastrophic population explosion. 

Whilst humanity prevails so will evil. Evil will survive and thrive through sophisticated indoctrination and other conscience-suppressing disguises.

Desmond Tutu has been praying for the downfall of the ANC since 2011. Clearly he needs some assistance with such a difficult and worthy task..

Cockroaches still lurk on sharechat because it is prime real estate for their con artistry, duping and grand theft.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 06:33 PM

Why The Latest V-Bottom Rally Is Bearish<br /><br /><br /><br />It’s difficult to argue against the opinion that the latest “v-bottom” rally in US equities has more force and bullish swagger about it than any market leg higher since at least January 2013. Calling it “bearish” sounds like an absurd contradiction. But is it possible this superficial show of strength – taken in the context of the decline preceding it – is indicative of a more fragile market underneath the surface: one that is more susceptible to larger sell offs, more often?<br /><br />The balance of the evidence laid out in the historical study below concludes “yes”.<br /><br />In the 8 trading sessions since Wednesday, October 15’s bottom, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF (SPY) has installed a V-bottom rally with a range exceeding 8%. Following late September-early October’s -9.8% drop the brevity and parabolic angle of SPY’s performance – the shortest, most violent burst higher since Fall 2011 – has elicited a lot of speculation:<br /><br />Does a rally with these characteristics typically follow a sustained bottom? Or, is it a limited, corrective move that will fizzle and roll over into a retracement that sees the S&P give back some or all of its V-bottom gains?<br /><br />One way to measure this is to examine SPY’s Rate-of-Change (RoC), a basic technical indicator that evaluates the percentage gain or loss as of a day’s close versus the close X days ago. In the study below, RoC is configured to look backward over the previous 7 trading days. This offers SPY’s net performance over the course of the V-bottom rally (10/15-10/24), and a basis of comparison against which we can measure SPY’s historic performance around a RoC reading that meets or exceeds Friday’s.<br /><br />The resulting data answers two questions:<br /><br />In what market context do rallies like this generally occur?<br />How does SPY perform following rallies of this magnitude?<br />Since January 2000, SPY’s 7-Day Rate-of-Change has met or exceeded Friday’s reading (5.364) on 49 previous occurrences.<br /><br />The period in which these occur, the total rise from the local low to high, the rise after a RoC meeting/exceeding 5.364 (like Friday’s) and any subsequent decline (measured from the high, in trading days) are laid out here:<br /><br /><br /><br />Breaking down the table (RoC is based on closing data, not intraday extremes):<br /><br />The average total rise in which these RoC reading occur is 11.86%; Median 10.37%. Comparing this to October 2014’s 8.01% (low-to-high), we see the current rally is actually on the modest side.<br />The average rally from the close on the day a RoC meeting/exceeding 5.364 prints is 2.51%, median 1.86%. This is the baseline performance against which any rally this week (of 10/27/2014) should be measured.<br />Following the total rise, SPY has corrected -10.2% on average; median -8.34%. These declines occur over 17 (average) or 12 (median) trading days.<br />46 of 49 (94%) declines retraced the post-signal rise by 100% or more. Of these three exceptions, two occurred in March 2009-February 2010 (71% retraced or -5.32%, 42% retraced or -4.07%) and one in May-November 2010 (40% retraced or -4.32%).<br />12 of 49 (24.5%) saw no “Rise Post-Signal” but immediately entered decline on the following trading day.<br />The average and median decline that follows these readings far exceed’s Wednesday, 10/15’s -5.02 reading (lowest since 11/15/2012).<br />Here’s the hypothetical edge provided by this data:<br /><br />Shorting SPY on the close of the “Signal” day where “Signal” = the first close where SPY’s 7-Day RoC =/>5.364 offers 4:1 ratio of reward:risk (or “R”) on average. The median data offers a 4.48R. The data above offers a 94% likelihood that any adverse excursion that occurs where a short is opened at close on the signal day (denoted by the “Rise Post-Signal” column) will be at least 100% retraced.<br />In what market context do rallies like this generally occur?<br /><br />Having answered the second question above (“How does SPY perform following rallies of this magnitude?”), let’s turn back to the first: “In what market context do rallies like this generally occur?”<br /><br />Check out how this data breaks out across time. The full measures of the rallies (“total rise”) in which RoC readings meeting or exceeding Friday’s are in blue; the extent of the rallies left over after the RoC reading occurs is in red; and the subsequent declines are in yellow.<br /><br /><br /><br />It’s difficult to separate any period since January 2000 from “crisis” (whether “pre” or “post”), but it’s still worth noting that all the largest rallies featuring an 8-day percentage gain (as indicated by RoC) like the 8 ending last Friday, 10/24/2014 occur in 1) bear markets, 2) adverse market environments (Spring 2010, Fall 2011), and 3) in the initial snapback rallies that occur as SPY exits these periods. Moreover, the largest rallies tend to occur in the most dire contexts: 2001-2002, late 2008-early 2009, and Fall 2011, with the only real exception being Fall 2010’s relief rally following Fed Chair Ben Bernanke’s Jackson Hole Speech and its foreshadowing of QE2.<br /><br />This affirms the view that rallies comparable to the current move tend to occur in the context of larger market declines, and that the volatility seen in October is – believe it or not – on the light side, historically.<br /><br />So, is there more volatility ahead? Is SPY going to make a quick exit; or is it just stepping foot into a longer, more adverse market context? Some studies such as this one on NYSE New Highs-New Lows corroborate this. Other observations, such as the tight range compression indicated by SPY’s Bollinger Bands (below) suggests October is a prelude to wider ranges and higher realized volatility in the weeks ahead.<br /><br />Twitter: @andrewunknown<br /><br />Kassen holds no exposure to securities/instruments mentioned at the time of publication. Commentary provided in the above text and video is for educational purposes only and in no way constitutes trading or investment advice.<br /><br />
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Posted 27 October 2014 - 05:00 PM

Think this guy has it on the money....!!

 

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Not quite, more than maybe...

 


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Africa will never be regarded as adult until all of its organisations stop admiring and protecting criminal dictators.

MSM et al presents (sponsored) opinion as fact and seeks to indoctrinate. Journalists without ethics proliferate in a swamp of filthy lucre (BBC inclusive).

In response to decades of racism by fearful minority whites called apartheid there will be an eternity of racism by revengeful majority blacks called all kinds of excuses.

Corruption is not yet compulsory but it may as well be - Aggressive africanization uses the racist Employment Equity Act as a club.

Too many humans are too busy copulating to bother about the irresponsible, unsustainable and progressively catastrophic population explosion. 

Whilst humanity prevails so will evil. Evil will survive and thrive through sophisticated indoctrination and other conscience-suppressing disguises.

Desmond Tutu has been praying for the downfall of the ANC since 2011. Clearly he needs some assistance with such a difficult and worthy task..

Cockroaches still lurk on sharechat because it is prime real estate for their con artistry, duping and grand theft.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:55 PM

you guys have to understand the mom an pop, doctors, dentists, doorknob unit trust holders start to send in fear based liquidation orders to Asset management houses...they have 5 days to liquidate. after they read 3 weeks of selling the retail investors start to sell.. big boys manipulation or not they are liquidating position as they receive redemption orders. this is a bear. it will take all the bull (I-buy-blindly) traders cash. chomp chomp chomp
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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:45 PM

someone tell me the big boys are not manipulating the market???


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:34 PM

Just a bit hungry

 

3 lower tops ... not a good sign (for longs)

Or 3 higher highs and bullish.... B)

 

Me still thinks there is a wild bull lurking that is going to cause havoc soon but tricky market this and too volatile for me liking!

 

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