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#1 Lionelza1

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:32 AM

From 22nov to 3 Dec and now 7 Dec.... Share suspended yesterday and I couldn't find any articles w. R. T the suspension.... Today notification of suspension not there.

Polly u think take a chance on this one?


IGNORE... It seems I was looking at wrong information
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:20 AM

Hi andii... Daw were to release Financials on 22 Nov now I see it's extended to 3 Dec....shud we be concerned?


From 22nov to 3 Dec and now 7 Dec.... Share suspended yesterday and I couldn't find any articles w. R. T the suspension.... Today notification of suspension not there.

Polly u think take a chance on this one?
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Posted 02 December 2018 - 08:34 AM

Thanks Matrix.  I have now studied every bit of info, videos, etc on EUZ and tend to agree with you that there is potential. Being a coffin dodger I am not sure I will be around to see the end result.The scope report should give a good picture and boost. Have a good day.  PS how come we have different share prices on the JSE, ASX and AIM? 

 

Hi Birdman,

 

I cannot answer your question 100%. I do know that the real market to watch is the AIM. Not much goes in with the JSE or ASX, but this will change once the ball starts to roll. AIM average trade volumes are 47million per day, whereas JSE is only about 1.1million.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

Thanks Matrix.  I have now studied every bit of info, videos, etc on EUZ and tend to agree with you that there is potential. Being a coffin dodger I am not sure I will be around to see the end result.The scope report should give a good picture and boost. Have a good day.  PS how come we have different share prices on the JSE, ASX and AIM? 


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Posted 30 November 2018 - 11:14 AM

I would think that EUZ is a unlikely ten bagger, with 5 billion shares out there, always more sellers than buyers. They are not even close to mining.

 

Hi Birdman,

 

It depends on how you define the turnaround time on a ten-bagger.

Will it be a ten-bagger within the next week, or month, probably not.

 

They are not close to mining, you are correct.

Mining or potential mining companies are however not valued the same way that other companies are valued on profit that's already been made.

Mining companies are rather valued on the NPV of expected asset value contained in the mine

At the moment they're busy with the scoping study that will be out before year end, and this will already help guesstimate the NPV.

 

Furthermore they will not necessarily ever mine here, but could sell the asset.

They have hinted however towards mining and have already applied for mining license few months ago, though this may take a year or two.

 

If they do sell the asset or mine, all indications are that the value of contained minerals are many multiples of the current Market Cap of 5.8million pounds.

As stated, all possible ten-baggers contain risk.

In trying to estimate a sales target for my shares I have however chatted to multiple mining investors on London bulletin boards.

On the question whether they expect to sell when this reaches ten bagger states a few have them were of the opinion that it's way to low.

Watch the youtube videos I shared on the EUZ thread which compare the company to some of its peers.

 

With regard to the comment of the 5billion shares in circulation, I don't see this as being to relevant.

You can't look at the amount of shares a company has and say there's to much in circulation as larger volumes will be traded if the price is smaller.

As information starts to trickle in the share price will rise, and people will buy.

If shares are cheaper more will just be traded relative to if shares were more expensive.

I had 100k SNH shares for example, sold them and just bought 7.5million EUZ share. - (Much happier in owning EUZ than when I had the SNH)

 

The risk has been stated and is obvious, just thought I'd share some potential.

 

FYI I'm long on EUZ, do your own research.


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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:42 AM

Hi andii... Daw were to release Financials on 22 Nov now I see it's extended to 3 Dec....shud we be concerned?

 

So their half year was Sep 2018. They have three months to publish results (JSE Listing requirements). They could even wait till end of December 2018. So no concern yet.


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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:35 AM

Hi andii... Daw were to release Financials on 22 Nov now I see it's extended to 3 Dec....shud we be concerned?
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Posted 30 November 2018 - 09:11 AM

Daw- distribution and Network Warehousing.

They where struggling badly in the past but at current market price they are very likely to be bought over. They had extreme measures to stay alive. They are debt free now.

Rumours are out that former CEO Todd or Bidvest might make an offer to buy the whole shares and de-list company.

Now the question will be at what price will the offer be? I think the range will be between 50 cents and R1.

At current price of 8 cents we might see a big jump soon. Keep an eye on this one guys.

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 08:40 AM

I would think that EUZ is a unlikely ten bagger, with 5 billion shares out there, always more sellers than buyers. They are not even close to mining.


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Posted 29 November 2018 - 03:38 PM

Europa Metals, EUZ.

http://www.sharenet....e.php?scode=EUZ

 

Refer to separate thread for info.

Waiting for the Scoping Study that will be released before year end, but still available at 3cents/share. 

Definite risk, as with any possible 10-bagger, but I'm hopeful in this being at least a 10-bagger.


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Posted 28 November 2018 - 11:24 AM

How's your feeling after the positive year end results but a much lower share price?

 

I climbed out of shares middle of the year after making a quick buck on the two.. truthfully haven't kept my eye on shares recently, currently only looking at property.. bargains to be had! :)


Edited by Goliath, 28 November 2018 - 11:25 AM.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 02:56 PM

I took a small bite of Ellies as well purely on gambling on the chance that the second year of their "turn-around" is still going strong.. coupled with Orion my two penny stock gambles!

How's your feeling after the positive year end results but a much lower share price?


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#13 Bullhunter

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 10:25 AM

Wonder if Steinhoff  15 years ago met this criteria. Was at R15.00 some moons back

 

 

A 20% trailing stop loss would certainly have been helpful.  You would have got out on the 7th October 2016 close of R76.05 following its peak of R96.05 close on 4th April 2016


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 10:05 AM

 

How to identifying ALL ten baggers early in their growth curve:

 

Most if not all 'Ten Baggers"  will first appear on the daily new highs list, even before they double in value. 

 

  • Only buy New highs of companies showing consistent growth, preferably HEPS growth of > 20%.
  • Use a 20 % trailing stop loss(technical definition of a bear market) to begin with. If the growth curve starts exceeding 45 degrees, tighten the trailing stop loss (rapidly growing shares are volatile). 
  • If a new high does not retrace, keep buying. It is a rocket.
  • Bank any profit taken in shares, not cash.

 

 

Wonder if Steinhoff  15 years ago met this criteria. Was at R15.00 some moons back


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 09:57 AM

How to identifying ALL ten baggers early in their growth curve:

 

Most if not all 'Ten Baggers"  will first appear on the daily new highs list, even before they double in value. 

 

  • Only buy New highs of companies showing consistent growth, preferably HEPS growth of > 20%.
  • Use a 20 % trailing stop loss(technical definition of a bear market) to begin with. If the growth curve starts exceeding 45 degrees, tighten the trailing stop loss (rapidly growing shares are volatile). 
  • If a new high does not retrace, keep buying. It is a rocket.
  • Bank any profit taken in shares, not cash.

Edited by Bullhunter, 25 April 2018 - 09:58 AM.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:42 AM

Kibo is marching towards its Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) with the Tanzanian Government steadily.

 

Specifically tomorrow will see a work session for the full task team (representatives from Kibo and the Government) to finalise where possible and identify any bottlenecks and take action. Hopefully this should see the PPA signed soon. Perhaps a month?

 

Once signed the coal-to-power project can be financed. My guess is the financiers have already sketched in various possible financing deals based on various outcomes of the PPA, so once the PPA is known it may largely be a matter of picking the applicable deal. Then construction of the coal mine and neighbouring power plant can begin. The construction period has been scheduled for three years.

 

Three years seems like a long time but to me the share is considerably de-risked from 3 years ago (when it was still the same price as today) and will continue to de-risk as various construction milestones are met.

 

Have heard rumors of potential delays of a few months to this.


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 03:17 PM

Kibo is marching towards its Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) with the Tanzanian Government steadily.

 

Specifically tomorrow will see a work session for the full task team (representatives from Kibo and the Government) to finalise where possible and identify any bottlenecks and take action. Hopefully this should see the PPA signed soon. Perhaps a month?

 

Once signed the coal-to-power project can be financed. My guess is the financiers have already sketched in various possible financing deals based on various outcomes of the PPA, so once the PPA is known it may largely be a matter of picking the applicable deal. Then construction of the coal mine and neighbouring power plant can begin. The construction period has been scheduled for three years.

 

Three years seems like a long time but to me the share is considerably de-risked from 3 years ago (when it was still the same price as today) and will continue to de-risk as various construction milestones are met.


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 02:06 PM

took the gamble as well :)

 

I took a small bite of Ellies as well purely on gambling on the chance that the second year of their "turn-around" is still going strong.. coupled with Orion my two penny stock gambles!


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 11:38 AM

Orion Minerals ORN, see link for lots of info on this potential baggger.

 

https://stockhead.co...rican-explorer/

took the gamble as well :) 


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Posted 29 March 2018 - 03:51 PM

The end of March 2018 nears. Kibo (JSE: KBO) which has an electricity generation project in Tanzania was targeting the end of March as the date by which it expected to have a signed PPA (Power Purchase Agreement) signed with the Tanzanian Government for the sale of electricity by Kibo. Such agreement might be a few days late, but the CEO (Mr Louis Coetzee) said it's a question of WHEN and not IF it will be signed. On a net basis, the share price hasn't moved in three years, which the company doesn't deserve.


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