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#13501 Bubble

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:28 PM

Why would bond price be up? Where do you see that?

https://www.boerse-b...in=XS1650590349


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#13502 Ms Jet

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 07:09 PM

Flip haven't had drop to by more shares yet...maybe its not coming
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#13503 MrGermanGuy

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 07:03 PM

https://www.bloomber...er-bed-retailer
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#13504 Ms Jet

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:42 PM

Why would bond price be up? Where do you see that?
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:23 PM

Something is up, Bond price also up today to 80.7%.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:56 PM

Something is up, Bond price also up today to 80.7%.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:41 PM

Volumes up today compared last 4 days and last minute increase cob...wonder why or just traders? Im watching this share far to closely to be healthy
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:29 PM

I dont think she does think that...ill be interested in reply :)
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:27 PM

Difficult to quantify future earnings as two liabilities need clarifying... First restructure finalisation and second... Legal cases.
Most of it is thumbsuck and probability theory... End Oct... Restructuring completion will see massive spike in share price and a second after pwc... Report... Second spike can be a double up.. Or an all the way down in the ditches....

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IN,Do you reaaaaally think an "all the way down in the ditches" scenario is Likely?
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#13510 Ms Jet

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:22 PM

Im also chancing it..if drops buying more..and will just try remain calm no panic selling 😁
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:16 PM

Shareprice

Before issuing new the s/p needs at least 50 €ent plus x anything else makes no sense!

Bookvalue is already corresponding to that 58 €ent, if people think of converting 5:1 10:1 e.g.

This would probably happen in 2019 or much later, pension fund gave a security against the Hedgies
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:13 PM

Difficult to quantify future earnings as two liabilities need clarifying... First restructure finalisation and second... Legal cases.
Most of it is thumbsuck and probability theory... End Oct... Restructuring completion will see massive spike in share price and a second after pwc... Report... Second spike can be a double up.. Or an all the way down in the ditches....

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That sounds correct. I'm still going to chance it.

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#13513 Ms Jet

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:02 PM

If there is a debt to equity conversion how would this affect the share price? I have couple theories why meeting bring held next week....can anyone help re with case histories in past as to how shares reacted
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:59 PM

Difficult to quantify future earnings as two liabilities need clarifying... First restructure finalisation and second... Legal cases.
Most of it is thumbsuck and probability theory... End Oct... Restructuring completion will see massive spike in share price and a second after pwc... Report... Second spike can be a double up.. Or an all the way down in the ditches....

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:43 PM

Exactly, know when to buy, how much to buy and when to sit on hands. If you get that right, you half way there to being a good investor.

I asked this question once before and no one answered.

How does the Mr market value a share? On past earnings or future earning?

If you get that right, you wont be gambling in Steinhoff


Future earnings. Except if your company is valued at NAV.

please director me to reliable EBITDA forecast financial information ...otherwise it's a gamble.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:34 PM

If 20 percent drops great buying opportunity for all..

Exactly, know when to buy, how much to buy and when to sit on hands. If you get that right, you half way there to being a good investor.

 

I asked this question once before and no one answered.

 

How does the Mr market value a share? On past earnings or future earning?

 

If you get that right, you wont be gambling in Steinhoff


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:27 PM

If 20 percent drops great buying opportunity for all..
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:24 PM

Cant see pepkor going to ten..its good business
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:24 PM

Bl dy h ll! Loot gloom around today steinhoff did take upswing when 2 percent increased and has been holding its own even though no sens to inspire market..nature of life not everything can go bust at once ...things flows up and down like the tide..impossible to all just go one direction

remember i said sometime earlier this week that if market breaks a key technical level we could go into correction mode....Its near there...If breaks expect a drop of 20% on most stocks..And September has a history of correction modes


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 02:18 PM

Bl dy h ll! Loot gloom around today 😁 steinhoff did take upswing when 2 percent increased and has been holding its own even though no sens to inspire market..nature of life not everything can go bust at once ...things flows up and down like the tide..impossible to all just go one direction
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