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#1 Tolly12

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Posted 22 January 2022 - 04:53 PM

Agreed. Have pretty much given up on the Ascendis group on there. The other groups are far less spammy.



Me too. Absolutely better to be informed just trough official SENS.
Wait for January the 31th news about lender agreement to cancel the debt.
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#2 Sleepwa123

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Posted 22 January 2022 - 12:25 PM

Agreed. Have pretty much given up on the Ascendis group on there. The other groups are far less spammy.
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#3 Africa1962

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Posted 22 January 2022 - 11:14 AM

i am not sure how anyone follows anything constructive on Discord

 

Lots of discussions on discord between 2 shareholder groupings.
One having 25% plus and newly formed.
The activists Dec holding was at 30% but should be less.
No idea if the lenders screw shareholders and we end in shareholders dissent

https://discord.gg/R5jXKk2e


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#4 Investment novice

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Posted 21 January 2022 - 11:52 AM

Lots of discussions on discord between 2 shareholder groupings.
One having 25% plus and newly formed.
The activists Dec holding was at 30% but should be less.
No idea if the lenders screw shareholders and we end in shareholders dissent

https://discord.gg/R5jXKk2e
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#5 David-89

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Posted 18 January 2022 - 03:07 PM

Andi, are you still in this share? Please do share your thoughts. I am still in with around 150k shares, managed to flog some at B/E a few weeks ago, now just waiting to break even again. I am a bit sick of this roller coaster ride to be honest.


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Posted 17 January 2022 - 08:08 AM

Well... i waited for this sens and while it has some positive vague notes its a bit dissapointing.... another 2 weeks to get nitty gritty... hopefully we will get a fair or fairish deal... time will tell.. dont think we are going to see a strong pump over next weeks still uncertainty on what shareholders will own in the end


Agree. A second draft round of recap. Info is scant or vague.
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#7 Billions

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 04:35 PM

Well... i waited for this sens and while it has some positive vague notes its a bit dissapointing.... another 2 weeks to get nitty gritty... hopefully we will get a fair or fairish deal... time will tell.. dont think we are going to see a strong pump over next weeks still uncertainty on what shareholders will own in the end
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Posted 13 January 2022 - 03:59 PM

Sens out and on face value looks a lot better than any sens issued the past month or so.....

 

Maybe there is still some kick left in this horse.


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Posted 13 January 2022 - 02:34 PM

Businesse live article today - only for subscribers.  Anyone have access to post the article on the forum maybe?

 

https://www.business...ox=1642051850-1


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#10 JR7800

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 02:30 PM

If I look at the last sense issued it seems Ascendis got some form of extension to the 14th of January 22 which is tomorrow.

 

Can we expect a sense today or tomorrow?

 

Anyone still accumulating shares? I sold off +/-25% of my holdings at 85c beginning of the week. Starting to lose all faith in this one.


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Posted 10 January 2022 - 06:52 AM

Ascendis_Board_Communication_080122.pdf
We posted comms on discord. If any can share the doc here
Basically we not happy woth the baord being unbalanced and we are stpngly motivating for 2 industry experienced credible.individuals to be adfed. They also add credibility and can assist capital raise
We also cpncermed that there is a risk deals are favouted as 2 parties have complained to me that they dont sufficient engagement and asc has not negotiated with them and kep them arms legmth
Wr also converned on debt anf quantum



All in all it is a **** show but we have a very responsive board member in harry smit and we lobbying to add carl neethling amd amaresh chetty for oversight.

We also wotking on the background to structire options for debt reduction akd sparing the flagships as an.alternative but the companies that sent an loi got out of offive email replies. This is how seriois and potemtially conflicted this board is.

Qe met with managament as activists and instructed a response. Failing whoch wr will potententially support am egm but not santion any board actions undertalen unless it can be demonstrated that there is no conflict
We requested full disclosures on relationships with directors and exevutives akd were told they were none. Gary shaynes relationship remains undisclosed as does andre marshals with blantyre.

If we sit and do nothing the cockarpaches will eat everything...if we shine the light the may at least leave some value and or pretend to be shareholdet sympathetic.

Imo trade this share with caution? Trade it up and fown? And enjoy the **** show.

From am activist perspective we want to fill 2 baord seats with reputable pe deal makers with years of exprience and stregmthem the elected baord of 29th to better fair off againat the lenders and the negtiation emsuring

The 2 new directprs and their supporters hold at least 120m shares and they fighting to reserve equire. The ascendis activists are propably down to 70 to 90 million

We may have to redo the voting pool and create a new vetted independemt pool in my personal name as i am unconflicted.
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#12 LarryK

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Posted 04 January 2022 - 09:59 AM

Thank you IN.
Appreciate the effort and honesty.
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Posted 04 January 2022 - 04:51 AM

This is a difficult company to follow and invest in. Taking up alot more time and effort. Engaged late until 10pm with shareholder groupings that are mopping up the shares on the market for past few months. They see value in Asc as the assets are cheap.

There is also concern that new lenders will screw us and we dont as yet have any communication from them signalling their transactions. These are the SA blantyres....hence shareholder activists and sizeable investors are calling for an urgent board meeting to get a better understanding of the risks at hand and what is going to be done to sort this.

The investors themselves are willing to put down a significant amount of money to back asc against the lenders fortunately.

Some interesting days ahead and hopefully there is light at the end of this long painful journey
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#14 LarryK

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Posted 30 December 2021 - 04:58 PM

I’ve sold about 60% of my shares between 90-93c.

Not sure yet if it’s worth getting back in again lower but I’ll consider should it dip to around 60c.

Thankfully I came in cheap so made some profit.

Feels like a lot of risk for the potential upside and management communication is all over the place with no clear roadmap yet. Just feels messy and unclear, imho.

I’m a trading/investment idiot so please don’t see this as advice.

Cheers to the last few days of 2021 🍻
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Posted 30 December 2021 - 04:17 PM

Oh well can kicked down the road again... this is becoming frustrating.. but i suppose more info is needed.. good that debt now local... but we now need await full info again... intrest rate... selling or not selling pharma.. etc... so another few weeks of darkness..... i am drained
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#16 LarryK

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Posted 30 December 2021 - 02:28 PM

Sens out.
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#17 David-89

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Posted 30 December 2021 - 08:52 AM

Well I’ve broken even again this morning so I think I will finally start using my head and selling off small portions.
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#18 LarryK

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Posted 30 December 2021 - 06:42 AM

Thanks Billions.

I started selling small amounts as soon as we crossed 90c in case we drop again.

Fingers crossed for a good sens today. Cheers

Should be a sens tomorrow with relevant news... the share price recovered from last week..... 5 mil sold today price up 11.9%... i think a positive plan is on the horizon so not too stressed. Hope we get a full pack of info via sens.


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 08:46 PM

Should be a sens tomorrow with relevant news... the share price recovered from last week..... 5 mil sold today price up 11.9%... i think a positive plan is on the horizon so not too stressed. Hope we get a full pack of info via sens.
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#20 LarryK

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 03:15 PM

Deadline was delivery of signed docs to relevant parties by 3pm on 29 December 2021…

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