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#341 Pilotpilot

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:11 PM

Wow! KIO actually triggered a bull trend 2 days ago. I thought a long was out of the question with all the other shares going down! Missed one there. :unsure:  

 

KIO has turned to your favor ^_^!

 

Sorry, now I see, I did add it!  :D


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:10 PM

Wow! KIO actually triggered a bull trend 2 days ago. I thought a long was out of the question with all the other shares going down! Missed one there. :unsure:  

:lol: not complaining though ^^


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:09 PM

KIO has turned to your favor ^_^!

 

Wow! KIO actually triggered a bull trend 2 days ago. I thought a long was out of the question with all the other shares going down! Missed one there. :unsure:  


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:03 PM

Hi Gents

 

I was concerned on the resource short positions. I am closing IMP and GLN. Its the end of the trend for these 2. I am also closing SHP and SAC shorts. 

 

See attached spreadsheet.

 

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:03 PM

Hi Gents

 

I was concerned on the resource short positions. I am closing IMP and GLN. Its the end of the trend for these 2. I am also closing SHP and SAC shorts. 

 

See attached spreadsheet.

 

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 02:23 PM

If you are shorting MPC get out!! lol those results are rock hard

 

True, solid results!


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 02:11 PM

If you are shorting MPC get out!! lol those results are rock hard


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 01:26 PM

Morning Gents

 

Just to give you bit of background.

 

I have been investing since 1994 and was fascinated with the Stock Exchange (and I still am). I have a strong maths background and wanted to figure out why and when to buy shares. Warren Buffet , had me hooked on value investing by 2005, but I was a big fan of technical analysis. So since 2006 I backed only value shares and used technical analysis to determine good entry points. I started using SSF in 2008 to increase my exposure, but at the end of 2008 and beginning of 2009 I lost everything. I was holding shares like BRN, OML, SHF and TKG. In those days it was the best value I could find on the market, and had I held them till today, I would have done well. But if there is panic and fear in the market, you can hold the best of shares, they will get smash. And when you think its the bottom.... they get smashed some more. 19 and 20 February 2009 was the end for me when OML dropped 7,3% and 5,8% in succession, after dropping from my R8-00 entry to R7-00 before the 19th. Not happy times, to say the least.

 

Now on to the better news. The lessons I learned from this experience, has changed my view on the way the market is moving. Fundamentals wasn't moving it, in the short term anyway. So my interest changed to reading up everything on market cycles and trends, which shares do best in which part of the cycle. It is all good to know this, but when is the start and when is the beginning and when do the certain sector start moving. It was very vague. And that took me right back to my Technical analysis. Three years ago I was full time into technical analysis and tried about 100 different technical indicators. Using them in different ways, and added % chance of success on each of them. Most of them don't work on their own effectively, but I had about 15 that worked the best.

 

The last year my focus swung to what happens right before an uptrend or downtrend and I found that certain (modified) indicators do the same thing nearly every time a new trend starts (about 85% success). In March this year I ran preliminary data on Jan, Feb and March of 2015 and came to the astonishing conclusion, of doing 67%, 80% and 55% in each of those months (with gearing of course). Around 10-20% without gearing.

 

My next step was to prove it with real trading scenarios and thus the thread, I started here on sharechat. I am in the process of leaving my current job, and to pursue trading shares full time. 

 

If someone can come up with a descent 8 digit amount for my model, I would sell it. :D  But I don't want to jeopardise the sale of my model by giving all the information that I have. 

 

 

I do use RSI indicators, Divergence indicators (I developed myself), STS indicators (modified), MFI indicator (modified), sma's and wma's. Most of these indicators values have been changed to give smoother and more accurate trigger points. Some of the short term Indicators need to do the same thing at the same time, to validate a trend changes, but then I need to see a trend break on the RSI indicators as well. (Not on the graph). I would sometimes say a trend has broken, but it has broken on the RSI and not on the graph. 

 

Lastly, I would go to the graph, and especially with big formation breaks, it confirms the new trend and the break. Then a new trend has started (most of the time)

 

I know I'm not giving you a lot of information, but hope this will help. 

 

In the meantime, I will be posting on here, to share my view. Thanks to everyone for all the interest! ;)

 

Happy Trading

 

 

Pilot

Hi Pilot

 

The extreme resilience and determination you have shown the markets will resonate with alot of us who have been demoralised and humiliated in the markets.

 

Thanks for always sharing everything open heartedly, it is a great source of motivation for myself!


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 01:20 PM

Hi Pilot,

 

Thanks for the informative advice on your trading strategies... it sounds great....and keep up the great advice!! 


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 01:19 PM

Hi Pilot,

 

Thanks for the informative advice on your trading strategies... it sounds great....and keep up the great advice!! 


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 12:23 PM

Hi Pilot,

 

Your background sounds a lot like mine at the moment.

 

Thanks for taking the time to explain your methods. It might not seem enough for you but for the rest of us that is valuable information you gave.

 

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 12:17 PM

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work do you do currently?

 

Mechanical Engineer and part shareholder in the company.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 12:14 PM

 

 

My next step was to prove it with real trading scenarios and thus the thread, I started here on sharechat. I am in the process of leaving my current job, and to pursue trading shares full time. 

 

 

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work do you do currently?


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 11:57 AM

Morning Gents

 

Just to give you bit of background.

 

I have been investing since 1994 and was fascinated with the Stock Exchange (and I still am). I have a strong maths background and wanted to figure out why and when to buy shares. Warren Buffet , had me hooked on value investing by 2005, but I was a big fan of technical analysis. So since 2006 I backed only value shares and used technical analysis to determine good entry points. I started using SSF in 2008 to increase my exposure, but at the end of 2008 and beginning of 2009 I lost everything. I was holding shares like BRN, OML, SHF and TKG. In those days it was the best value I could find on the market, and had I held them till today, I would have done well. But if there is panic and fear in the market, you can hold the best of shares, they will get smash. And when you think its the bottom.... they get smashed some more. 19 and 20 February 2009 was the end for me when OML dropped 7,3% and 5,8% in succession, after dropping from my R8-00 entry to R7-00 before the 19th. Not happy times, to say the least.

 

Now on to the better news. The lessons I learned from this experience, has changed my view on the way the market is moving. Fundamentals wasn't moving it, in the short term anyway. So my interest changed to reading up everything on market cycles and trends, which shares do best in which part of the cycle. It is all good to know this, but when is the start and when is the beginning and when do the certain sector start moving. It was very vague. And that took me right back to my Technical analysis. Three years ago I was full time into technical analysis and tried about 100 different technical indicators. Using them in different ways, and added % chance of success on each of them. Most of them don't work on their own effectively, but I had about 15 that worked the best.

 

The last year my focus swung to what happens right before an uptrend or downtrend and I found that certain (modified) indicators do the same thing nearly every time a new trend starts (about 85% success). In March this year I ran preliminary data on Jan, Feb and March of 2015 and came to the astonishing conclusion, of doing 67%, 80% and 55% in each of those months (with gearing of course). Around 10-20% without gearing.

 

My next step was to prove it with real trading scenarios and thus the thread, I started here on sharechat. I am in the process of leaving my current job, and to pursue trading shares full time. 

 

If someone can come up with a descent 8 digit amount for my model, I would sell it. :D  But I don't want to jeopardise the sale of my model by giving all the information that I have. 

 

 

I do use RSI indicators, Divergence indicators (I developed myself), STS indicators (modified), MFI indicator (modified), sma's and wma's. Most of these indicators values have been changed to give smoother and more accurate trigger points. Some of the short term Indicators need to do the same thing at the same time, to validate a trend changes, but then I need to see a trend break on the RSI indicators as well. (Not on the graph). I would sometimes say a trend has broken, but it has broken on the RSI and not on the graph. 

 

Lastly, I would go to the graph, and especially with big formation breaks, it confirms the new trend and the break. Then a new trend has started (most of the time)

 

I know I'm not giving you a lot of information, but hope this will help. 

 

In the meantime, I will be posting on here, to share my view. Thanks to everyone for all the interest! ;)

 

Happy Trading

 

 

Pilot

+1 Rep Pilot, great read  - I can relate,  :rolleyes: .

All the best and thanks for sharing.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 11:42 AM

<respect> and thanks once again for sharing with us Pilot..

 

 


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 11:31 AM

Hi Pilot,

 

Great thread, been following it since you started it.

 

I was wondering how you determine in which way the trend is heading? Is it through technical analysis?

 

Hi pilot thanks for the great advise. I'm sure most of us would like to know this but you keep talking about you triggers and indicators. Would you mind giving your break down of your ticks/rules that a trade needs to make for you to consider it?<br /><br />Thank in advance. 😄

 

Morning Gents

 

Just to give you bit of background.

 

I have been investing since 1994 and was fascinated with the Stock Exchange (and I still am). I have a strong maths background and wanted to figure out why and when to buy shares. Warren Buffet , had me hooked on value investing by 2005, but I was a big fan of technical analysis. So since 2006 I backed only value shares and used technical analysis to determine good entry points. I started using SSF in 2008 to increase my exposure, but at the end of 2008 and beginning of 2009 I lost everything. I was holding shares like BRN, OML, SHF and TKG. In those days it was the best value I could find on the market, and had I held them till today, I would have done well. But if there is panic and fear in the market, you can hold the best of shares, they will get smash. And when you think its the bottom.... they get smashed some more. 19 and 20 February 2009 was the end for me when OML dropped 7,3% and 5,8% in succession, after dropping from my R8-00 entry to R7-00 before the 19th. Not happy times, to say the least.

 

Now on to the better news. The lessons I learned from this experience, has changed my view on the way the market is moving. Fundamentals wasn't moving it, in the short term anyway. So my interest changed to reading up everything on market cycles and trends, which shares do best in which part of the cycle. It is all good to know this, but when is the start and when is the beginning and when do the certain sector start moving. It was very vague. And that took me right back to my Technical analysis. Three years ago I was full time into technical analysis and tried about 100 different technical indicators. Using them in different ways, and added % chance of success on each of them. Most of them don't work on their own effectively, but I had about 15 that worked the best.

 

The last year my focus swung to what happens right before an uptrend or downtrend and I found that certain (modified) indicators do the same thing nearly every time a new trend starts (about 85% success). In March this year I ran preliminary data on Jan, Feb and March of 2015 and came to the astonishing conclusion, of doing 67%, 80% and 55% in each of those months (with gearing of course). Around 10-20% without gearing.

 

My next step was to prove it with real trading scenarios and thus the thread, I started here on sharechat. I am in the process of leaving my current job, and to pursue trading shares full time. 

 

If someone can come up with a descent 8 digit amount for my model, I would sell it. :D  But I don't want to jeopardise the sale of my model by giving all the information that I have. 

 

 

I do use RSI indicators, Divergence indicators (I developed myself), STS indicators (modified), MFI indicator (modified), sma's and wma's. Most of these indicators values have been changed to give smoother and more accurate trigger points. Some of the short term Indicators need to do the same thing at the same time, to validate a trend changes, but then I need to see a trend break on the RSI indicators as well. (Not on the graph). I would sometimes say a trend has broken, but it has broken on the RSI and not on the graph. 

 

Lastly, I would go to the graph, and especially with big formation breaks, it confirms the new trend and the break. Then a new trend has started (most of the time)

 

I know I'm not giving you a lot of information, but hope this will help. 

 

In the meantime, I will be posting on here, to share my view. Thanks to everyone for all the interest! ;)

 

Happy Trading

 

 

Pilot


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:59 AM

Yip! on the home screen of standard bank there isn't even a top 5 gainers for the day lol  :lol:


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:50 AM

Looking at intraday chart, let's hope the R 20 support does not become the resistance now for PPC  :wacko:

True, but have you seen the rest of the market... TKG taking hiding of note CPI, PSG, MPC etc...


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:46 AM

Looking at intraday chart, let's hope the R 20 support does not become the resistance now for PPC  :wacko:


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 08:59 AM

Hi Pilot,

 

Brilliant thread - great for us who are new to trading.

Thanks a ton and keep it going!!

 


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