Schutzgemeinschaft der Kapitalanleger e.V.: SdK calls on shareholders of Steinhoff International Holdings N.V. to bundle their interests....
Posted 10 January 2023 - 04:28 PM
Schutzgemeinschaft der Kapitalanleger e.V.: SdK calls on shareholders of Steinhoff International Holdings N.V. to bundle their interests....
Posted 10 January 2023 - 09:36 AM
Any input here?
I don't have much input other than to say I am still holding. At a sizeable loss, but still holding. Seem the share price has stabilised somewhat.
Posted 08 January 2023 - 12:17 PM
Ps. I can’t seem to get confirmed info on recent purchasers, specifically the dates of purchase. Have you checked those out in the link?
Posted 05 January 2023 - 01:30 PM
Posted 04 January 2023 - 08:23 AM
Posted 03 January 2023 - 09:58 PM
Posted 03 January 2023 - 06:04 PM
Well, I think keep hoping is the best strategy because you might just be able to exit this situation at a better price because it seems like, us ordinary guys that are involved here, are shaken and perhaps devastated by what has happened with the share price while big companies are still buying as if nothing has happened.
Also who knows? perhaps these big buyers have info that we don't have and are picking up shares at a very low price,. for example
According to www.morningstar.com/stocks/xjse/snh/ownership, here are some purchases examples:
Vanguard: 150 million share
Blackrock:64 Million shares
Old Mutual : 4 million shares
So why would they be buying? Have they got information that we don't have? Do they perhaps know that the proposal of the creditors will not materialise and are using the low share price to bolster their positions?
Just a thought that has crossed my mind.
Posted 03 January 2023 - 02:49 PM
Well, I think keep hoping is the best strategy because you might just be able to exit this situation at a better price because it seems like, us ordinary guys that are involved here, are shaken and perhaps devastated by what has happened with the share price while big companies are still buying as if nothing has happened.
Also who knows? perhaps these big buyers have info that we don't have and are picking up shares at a very low price,. for example
According to www.morningstar.com/stocks/xjse/snh/ownership, here are some purchases examples:
Vanguard: 150 million share
Blackrock:64 Million shares
Old Mutual : 4 million shares
So why would they be buying? Have they got information that we don't have? Do they perhaps know that the proposal of the creditors will not materialise and are using the low share price to bolster their positions?
Just a thought that has crossed my mind.
Might be part of their EFT automated buying, unless these are more than normal.
Edited by Bubble, 03 January 2023 - 02:49 PM.
Posted 03 January 2023 - 02:31 PM
Yes, stink is the right wording
Various reasons for this happening in my view;
- shareholders voted againts share options to Management as payment. I recall seeing LdP eyes rolling when that vote landed. They dont have skin in the game, they give rocks and get paid very well.
- shareholders voted againts issuing shares to settle debt, now they are forced into a crap deal. Could have been better if management were given options.
- economy(war) did not help
- Pepkor SA did not pay dividends, they elected to build the business into Brazil. Maybe a good strategy, or sour grapes towards SNH by squeezing them knowing they need cash for the debt.
What is the views on the future here, keep hoping or cut the loss.
Well, I think keep hoping is the best strategy because you might just be able to exit this situation at a better price because it seems like, us ordinary guys that are involved here, are shaken and perhaps devastated by what has happened with the share price while big companies are still buying as if nothing has happened.
Also who knows? perhaps these big buyers have info that we don't have and are picking up shares at a very low price,. for example
According to www.morningstar.com/stocks/xjse/snh/ownership, here are some purchases examples:
Vanguard: 150 million share
Blackrock:64 Million shares
Old Mutual : 4 million shares
So why would they be buying? Have they got information that we don't have? Do they perhaps know that the proposal of the creditors will not materialise and are using the low share price to bolster their positions?
Just a thought that has crossed my mind.
Posted 03 January 2023 - 07:55 AM
On a more serious note, how many out there are feeling suckered into this one? First to be sucked in and hold on for years for something that finally came in Jan 21, only to be gut-punched again 12 months later.
I’ve always had a strong suspicion mgt and insiders knew more than they were telling ordinary shareholders. Their vague and coy statements for nearly a year didn’t sit well. Also no wonder the Wiese and TT settlements were not in SIHL or entirely at least.
I’m no expert on the disclosure requirements, but this one stinks to high heaven all over again. Doesn’t matter that it was high risk for the last few years, this one smacks of more goings on and saying very little.
Sadly also an indicator of broken corp governance and oversight. Until the mgt team there feel it personally, this kind of thing will keep happening.
Id be happy to cash in the worthless scrip and use what’s left to get a multi million rand war chest going and get some friends in the trade to start contingency fee litigation for a class action.
It stinks to high heaven, that’s for sure.
Yes, stink is the right wording
Various reasons for this happening in my view;
- shareholders voted againts share options to Management as payment. I recall seeing LdP eyes rolling when that vote landed. They dont have skin in the game, they give rocks and get paid very well.
- shareholders voted againts issuing shares to settle debt, now they are forced into a crap deal. Could have been better if management were given options.
- economy(war) did not help
- Pepkor SA did not pay dividends, they elected to build the business into Brazil. Maybe a good strategy, or sour grapes towards SNH by squeezing them knowing they need cash for the debt.
What is the views on the future here, keep hoping or cut the loss.
Edited by Bubble, 03 January 2023 - 07:58 AM.
Posted 02 January 2023 - 10:24 PM
Posted 29 December 2022 - 07:56 PM
Got nothing to sell, pomped my moolah elsewhere... Not this skoro Koro, LD useless is still there.... Maybe I get some at 5c
Posted 29 December 2022 - 05:54 PM
Zanme is!
Posted 29 December 2022 - 05:53 PM
Got nothing to sell, pomped my moolah elsewhere... Not this skoro Koro, LD useless is still there.... Maybe I get some at 5c
Posted 28 December 2022 - 04:29 PM
Yes you right so please sell so I can buy cheap!
Posted 23 December 2022 - 11:45 AM
30c, 20c, 10c....then Pollys big fat zero
Yes you right so please sell so I can buy cheap!
Posted 23 December 2022 - 10:35 AM
Posted 22 December 2022 - 11:34 AM
I wonder who is more useless Louis or Andre or you and daddy?
Zanme is!
Posted 22 December 2022 - 11:34 AM
I wonder who is more useless Louis or Andre or you and daddy?
Zanme is!
Posted 21 December 2022 - 08:51 PM
Stay away from those curries