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#10841 Lionelza1

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:18 AM

 

SHAREHOLDER DIARY
 
Steinhoff International Holdings N.V. (FSE: SNH Xetra; JSE: SNH SJ)
 
2019 Q1 trading update Thursday, 28 February 2019
Financial year 2017 – Publication of results Thursday, 18 April 2019
Financial year 2018 – Publication of results Thursday, 18 April 2019
Annual general meeting Friday, 7 June 2019
2019 Half-year results June 2019
Analyst day July 2019
2019 Q3 trading update August 2019

 

Financial statements
The Company currently anticipates publishing its Group audited financial statements for 2017
and 2018 by 18 April 2019, subject to any delay caused by the challenge to the SEAG CVA.

 

carefull on that 1.....they are telling you how useless and clueless they are......and shud that be the case that it is delayed, Mr Market gonna be doing more moering of this special share.

 

what they shud rather do is fix that challenge first.....and then announce publication of AFS. instead they dangle that carrot


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:09 AM

Polly, could you please SUM up the points that you see as negative in the pepkor report.

Yes, finance cost shot up but obviously they had to pay back the 15 billion rand loan to Steinhoff. They had to secure other financing here.

Yes, the divided was relativly small, but obviously they are using the rest of the profits to reduce debt. They paid around 2 billion dividends.

After all this they covered their interest expense, kept around 1 billion rand from the proft to repay debt.

I would say getting out of the scandal this is some solid results. If u look at current environment in SA.





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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:29 AM

https://www.afr.com/...20190131-h1apgt

 

Furniture retailer Greenlit Brands is considering selling non-core assets and using the proceeds to reduce debt while separating from troubled parent Steinhoff International.

According to accounts lodged with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission on Thursday, Greenlit Brands lost $23.7 million in the 12 months ending September, compared with a profit of $41.6 million in the previous 15-month period, after booking $55.7 million in restructuring costs.

However, underlying earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation rose 3 per cent to $101.2 million, even though sales fell to $2.03 billion from $2.26 billion in the previous 15-month period.

Greenlit Brands, the owner of Fantastic Furniture, is considering selling non-core assets and further distancing itself from troubled parent Steinhoff International. Louie Douvis

 

The company, which owns furniture chains Freedom, Fantastic Furniture and Snooze and department stores Best & Less and Harris Scarfe, slashed staff costs by 9 per cent, rental expenses by 14 per cent and marketing costs by 7 per cent, while finance expenses fell $7 million to $24.5 million after the company refinanced almost $500 million of debt.

 

Despite tough retail conditions, earnings grew in all key businesses except Freedom, which dropped prices as part of a shift to an everyday value pricing model during the year.

 

Online sales across the group doubled after investments to build e-commerce capabilities, non-core assets were sold, and the company extended trademark licensing agreements after changing its name from Steinhoff Asia Pacific to Greenlit Brands during the year.

 

"In 2018, we delivered a financial result and a business performance to be proud of, especially given the extraordinary circumstances we had to contend with involving our parent company," said chief executive Michael Ford.

Mr Ford, the former chief executive of The Good Guys, joined Steinhoff Asia Pacific in late 2017, shortly before Steinhoff International, the world's second-largest furniture retailer after IKEA, was embroiled in a global accounting scandal.

"Our rebranding to Greenlit Brands and the refinancing initiative that we secured in 2018 provides us with a stable base to carefully assess our existing portfolio and the future growth options for all our brands and our group as a whole," he said.

"We also continue to carefully and methodically consider various options around separation from ownership by Steinhoff International, now from a position of strength and stability."

According to the accounts, Greenlit is considering "re-purposing non retail investments" into debt retirement or retail asset investment, and looking at various options to sever itself from Steinhoff International.

The Australian company still has $324.5 million in related party loans and bank loans of $115.6 million, taking total borrowings to $493.8 million.

In September, Greenlit signed a new financing package with a syndicate of three banks — ANZ, National Australia Bank and Deutsche Bank — that included a senior facility of $256 million expiring in October 2020. The new facility replaced a $300 million, 12-month facility agreed to in February with Steinhoff's previous syndicate of six local and international banks.

Over the last 12 months Greenlit has been in talks with lenders about a management buyout, demerger and initial public offering and has explored a trade sale, with suitors including private-equity firm KKR, Harvey Norman and Nick Scali said to have shown interest.

The new corporate name suggested Greenlit was favouring an IPO. However, the company may have to review its plans given the difficult discretionary retail environment and downturn in consumer stocks.

Greenlit Brands has 640 stores in Australia and New Zealand, eight manufacturing sites in Australia, China and Vietnam, and generates annual sales of more than $2 billion, split between homewares and general merchandise.


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#10844 Polly

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 06:15 AM

That of course in addition to the coming huge legal and regulatory costs and fines.

Pepkor ( together with a number of other dud companies acquired)) was " stolen" from Wiese by Steinhoff with all its fancy window dressing , fraud and manipulation...

He gave his most expensive  jewel and got fake diamonds in return...

 

Can you imagine the implication of this??  definitely most here cant....

 

If you dont know about the fraud and how to read AFS dont invest here..rather go to the casino where your odds will be better...

 

and oh yeah if you have no trust in auditors and the JSE , why invest in the first place....Then also go to the casino and do some card reading which some claim to be excellent at!!


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:01 AM

Pepkor results show an increase in revenue, but decrease in "Profit for the year", and a decrease in the "Earnings per share (cents)", and an increase in "Interest-bearing loans and borrowings".

The dividend of about (27.8 cents) 1.4% is not very helpful, given that Steinhoff gets these dividends, but has to pay 10% interest rate on the loans, it also might mean that Steinhoff might not get more than 13 rands per share should they decide to sell off some or all of their shares, while the share price today is traded at about 20 rands per share.

The profit to cost is 6.8%, and this is the most profitable business in the Steinhoff group (as many keep saying), so if this is true then Steinhoff business units are between making losses to breaking even to a maximum of 6.8%, and given that Steinhoff has increased their debt interest rate in the LUA and CVA from the previous 5% to 10%, then Steinhoff will be making losses

 

                                                                       2018     2017

Profit for the year                                           2895     3567 Rm

Total equity and liabilities                             90978    87113

Interest-bearing loans and borrowings    1615518         16

 

This might be the reason why Pepkor (PPH) and Steinhoff (SNH) are going down it's been about 7 days, any body has another explanation of the decline these share price it's been 7 days?

 

If Steinhoff management starts soon selling assets, then the share holders might (or might not) get some money, but if they carry on dragging the dead horse (so that they can get their fat checks every month for as long as they can drag the matter) then Steinhoff debt will slowly increase which seriously increase the risk of the share holders eventually get nothing (big fat zero).

That of course in addition to the coming huge legal and regulatory costs and fines.


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#10846 Tom

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 11:31 PM

Pepkor results show an increase in revenue, but decrease in "Profit for the year", and a decrease in the "Earnings per share (cents)", and an increase in "Interest-bearing loans and borrowings".

The dividend of about (27.8 cents) 1.4% is not very helpful, given that Steinhoff gets these dividends, but has to pay 10% interest rate on the loans, it also might mean that Steinhoff might not get more than 13 rands per share should they decide to sell off some or all of their shares, while the share price today is traded at about 20 rands per share.

The profit to cost is 6.8%, and this is the most profitable business in the Steinhoff group (as many keep saying), so if this is true then Steinhoff business units are between making losses to breaking even to a maximum of 6.8%, and given that Steinhoff has increased their debt interest rate in the LUA and CVA from the previous 5% to 10%, then Steinhoff will be making losses

 

                                                                       2018     2017

Profit for the year                                           2895     3567 Rm

Total equity and liabilities                             90978    87113

Interest-bearing loans and borrowings    1615518         16

 

This might be the reason why Pepkor (PPH) and Steinhoff (SNH) are going down it's been about 7 days, any body has another explanation of the decline these share price it's been 7 days?

 

If Steinhoff management starts soon selling assets, then the share holders might (or might not) get some money, but if they carry on dragging the dead horse (so that they can get their fat checks every month for as long as they can drag the matter) then Steinhoff debt will slowly increase which seriously increase the risk of the share holders eventually get nothing (big fat zero).


Edited by Tom, 31 January 2019 - 11:35 PM.

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#10847 Lionelza1

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:09 PM

dad...makes me wonder why u changed your alias. u either hiding from some1 or something

 

and cappy is a newbie status but has somewhat good knowledge.....makes me wonder what his previous alias was.....yea snippy, i get your constant talk about cons

 

anywayz screw u ouks and what u think.....im playing with real money and not your monopoly money

 

dad u have blinkers on....for your own sake remove it


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#10848 DayTraderDad

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:54 PM

 

There read this in page 26 of the Financials document might teach you something!!!
 
4. EARNINGS PER SHARE
4.1Weighted average number of ordinary shares
Issued ordinary shares at beginning of the year 3 450 2 568
Effect of shares issued during the year – 87
Effect of shares issued in terms of initial public offering – 23
Weighted average number of ordinary shares at end of the year for purpose of basic and headline earnings
per share 3 450 2 678
Effect of dilution due to share right issues in terms of share scheme 10 –
Weighted average number of ordinary shares at end of the year for the purpose of diluted earnings per share
and diluted headline earnings per share 3 460 2 678 
4.2 Earnings and headline earnings
Profit for the year 2 895 3 567
Attributable to non-controlling interests (10) (17)
Earnings attributable to ordinary shareholders 2 885 3 550
Capital items (note 2.1) 37 29
Taxation effect of capital items (5) (3)
Headline earnings attributable to ordinary shareholders 2 917 3 576
4.3 Diluted earnings and diluted headline earnings per share
Share rights issued to employees have been taken into account for dilutive earnings and dilutive headline earnings per share purposes. 

 

You see Polly what I am saying you fail to put fact just lots of talk. I will make sure will call your bluff!!! I just cannot believe what this company did to you to make you so bitter.


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#10849 DayTraderDad

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:49 PM

Basic earnings per share (cents) 4 83.6 132.6 (37.0%) Why????

There read this in page 26 of the Financials document might teach you something!!!
 
4. EARNINGS PER SHARE
4.1Weighted average number of ordinary shares
Issued ordinary shares at beginning of the year 3 450 2 568
Effect of shares issued during the year – 87
Effect of shares issued in terms of initial public offering – 23
Weighted average number of ordinary shares at end of the year for purpose of basic and headline earnings
per share 3 450 2 678
Effect of dilution due to share right issues in terms of share scheme 10 –
Weighted average number of ordinary shares at end of the year for the purpose of diluted earnings per share
and diluted headline earnings per share 3 460 2 678 
4.2 Earnings and headline earnings
Profit for the year 2 895 3 567
Attributable to non-controlling interests (10) (17)
Earnings attributable to ordinary shareholders 2 885 3 550
Capital items (note 2.1) 37 29
Taxation effect of capital items (5) (3)
Headline earnings attributable to ordinary shareholders 2 917 3 576
4.3 Diluted earnings and diluted headline earnings per share
Share rights issued to employees have been taken into account for dilutive earnings and dilutive headline earnings per share purposes. 

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:44 PM

Mother please explain why EBIT is down 37%!!! you one sided

Basic earnings per share (cents) 4 83.6 132.6 (37.0%) Why????


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:36 PM

 

 EBITDA   growth  4.2%   to R7.1bn

 

I fail to understand why Polly you and Lionel have a serious hate for SNH????


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:34 PM

Mother please explain why EBIT is down 37%!!! you one sided

 EBITDA   growth  4.2%   to R7.1bn

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:28 PM

Your lack of understanding and stating the full picture is pathetic!!!

You know Polly in time you going to be the biggest laughing stock just give it time!!!


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:26 PM

Mother please explain why EBIT is down 37%!!! you one sided

Your lack of understanding and stating the full picture is pathetic!!!


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:25 PM

old news.....sept 18 results out early 26 Novemeber 2018...this is just the published report...




Shareholders of the Company (“Shareholders”) are hereby advised that the Company’s
summarised audited consolidated annual financial statements for the year ended
30 September 2018 (“Summarised Financial Statements”) and the notice of the annual
general meeting of the Company (“Notice of AGM”) were dispatched to Shareholders today,
Thursday, 31 January 2019, and contains no modifications to the audited results that were
announced on SENS on 26 November 2018.

so before you get the pumpers going with their quack comments ,  Andi make sure correct facts posted.

 

 

also if you care to read the report ebit and heps down 37% from last year......

 

Again turnover means niks...could go 50% for all i care, bottom line must be looked at....Said this 5 times here in the Steinhoff thread but obviously pumpers dont understand what im saying..

Mother please explain why EBIT is down 37%!!! you one sided


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:23 PM

old news.....sept 18 results out early 26 Novemeber 2018...this is just the published report...




Shareholders of the Company (“Shareholders”) are hereby advised that the Company’s
summarised audited consolidated annual financial statements for the year ended
30 September 2018 (“Summarised Financial Statements”) and the notice of the annual
general meeting of the Company (“Notice of AGM”) were dispatched to Shareholders today,
Thursday, 31 January 2019, and contains no modifications to the audited results that were
announced on SENS on 26 November 2018.

so before you get the pumpers going with their quack comments ,  Andi make sure correct facts posted.

 

 

also if you care to read the report ebit and heps down 37% from last year......

 

Again turnover means niks...could go 50% for all i care, bottom line must be looked at....Said this 5 times here in the Steinhoff thread but obviously pumpers dont understand what im saying..

Mother Theresa back Typical comment ! the glass always half empty stick to Group 5 you doing well there!!! Its a great company! from R60 to 20 cts no risk!! Haha

You becoming pathetic!!! Let people have they say you don't always need to play mother!!


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:08 PM

Pepkor audited financial results are out and they actually increased revenue by more than 10%. Even the share capital sits at 55 Billion rand. Steinhoff still owns 71%. Current Market Cap of Steinhoff is 7 Billion.

In my opinion the current share price of Steinhoff is a joke.

 

I mean, they have numerous other business which are profitable, their finance is secured for 3 years, the claims (CW and PIC) against the company are actually a joke. Everyone who trades shares knows that if u invest in a company u can loose everything. 

every  lying pump will get a dump....  not negative...facts


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:07 PM

Pepkor audited financial results are out and they actually increased revenue by more than 10%.

 

 

old news.....sept 18 results out early 26 Novemeber 2018...this is just the published report...




Shareholders of the Company (“Shareholders”) are hereby advised that the Company’s
summarised audited consolidated annual financial statements for the year ended
30 September 2018 (“Summarised Financial Statements”) and the notice of the annual
general meeting of the Company (“Notice of AGM”) were dispatched to Shareholders today,
Thursday, 31 January 2019, and contains no modifications to the audited results that were
announced on SENS on 26 November 2018.

so before you get the pumpers going with their quack comments ,  Andi make sure correct facts posted.

 

 

also if you care to read the report ebit and heps down 37% from last year......

 

Again turnover means niks...could go 50% for all i care, bottom line must be looked at....Said this 5 times here in the Steinhoff thread but obviously pumpers dont understand what im saying..


Edited by Polly, 31 January 2019 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:51 PM

Pepkor audited financial results are out and they actually increased revenue by more than 10%. Even the share capital sits at 55 Billion rand. Steinhoff still owns 71%. Current Market Cap of Steinhoff is 7 Billion.

In my opinion the current share price of Steinhoff is a joke.

 

I mean, they have numerous other business which are profitable, their finance is secured for 3 years, the claims (CW and PIC) against the company are actually a joke. Everyone who trades shares knows that if u invest in a company u can loose everything. 

Yes andi22 that's my point good results yet people always finding a excuse to run the company down.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:31 PM

Haha I thinking to apply to be Jooste chauffeur!!!


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