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#201 andi222

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 09:36 AM

Thank you for the info.
I looked at financials and latest Sens. The price in my opinion is only pushed by the margin call.
C2C had to take up huge amounts of debts to pay for the rights issue last year. Now the price dropped and the have a margin call from the banks. Meaning they are basically broke. So they need to sell shares at any price.

I think at current prices its a good buy. Will buy some at 3.20.

If it falls. Will buy more at 2. Defs a good long term investment

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:10 PM

Looking at Aspen and ASC. These shares are trading at such low prices. What do u guys think at these prices? Good buy or will it drop even further?

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Both really cheap as you say. Why has market discounted the shares so heavily. Asc owns the USN brand and a number of other brands but rapid expansion and debt may have been the reason for he share being shorted.
I think a good buy but could be wrong...

Aspen looks very cheap and a potential takeover target for a dollar based company with a strong balance sheet looking for acquisitions.

Both look like good speculative trades and I would look to pick up some shares.

Currently not touching any of the hospital groups as not convinced on their growth in 2019 and none of their articulated strategies focus on core, but on lower margin dribble. Will not touch any hospital group punting the primary health play. And staying very far from advanced health although a cheap share they are unable to convert opportunities.
Rhb bophela looks interesting.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 04:11 PM

Looking at Aspen and ASC. These shares are trading at such low prices. What do u guys think at these prices? Good buy or will it drop even further?

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 03:39 PM

Worrisome sector... Booked my profits and maintain these shares will be lackluster and only for AG to meet diversification of pension and other low risk funds

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:08 PM

Healthcare summit.... Minister health calls for sustainability of health system for all including private Healthcare.... Nice.. Regulated tariffs drops margins but guarantees volumes.
Next. Discovery pushing for day clinic strategy.
I think fantastic news for advanced health. Would not buy this share though.... Cheap... But don't like the management and their poor strategy development and execution. Unlikely to make the most of this

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 06:22 PM

I had dumped all my shares expecting dip with results..... Shareprices down also due to market regulation.
I will most certainly be buying a listed hospital group... Not yet convinced about mediclinic...

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:04 PM

What ive noticed before i bought into snh was when info came out.....the market would react, and at that time it was more positive than negative.

 

My game plan depends on that sens, news, etc

 

Quite frankly i do not care if snh survives or not....was never my game plan, is the reason i want to be out before dec

Poor game plan.. gambling again


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#208 Lionelza1

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Posted 20 October 2018 - 01:39 PM

:D  :lol:  :ph34r:

 

Only as serious as u make it out top be. 

 

Its like picking black or red at casino...not

Its like scratching your balls to get a hunch. not

Watching every one cent move. not

Waiting for sens.not

Taking advise from follow circus clowns.not

Jumping in and then out when price goes against you when you suppose to be a long term investor.not

Adding to a losing trade.not

 

However if you continue to to do above , your DAD will have to take care of you.

What ive noticed before i bought into snh was when info came out.....the market would react, and at that time it was more positive than negative.

 

My game plan depends on that sens, news, etc

 

Quite frankly i do not care if snh survives or not....was never my game plan, is the reason i want to be out before dec


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#209 JK001

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 08:25 PM

Again Polly is right. 

 

Dude or Dudette, do your homework:

No new hospital licenses are issued, so there is no or little domestic growth opportunity. 

Little chance of them cutting bottom line as medical suppliers have their 'own' CPI, meaning increased costs for hospitals that is difficult to pass on to consumers cause the parasites already sucked them dry.

New intended National Health Care (that has no funding yet, but sure to come out of YOUR pocket) will force private hospitals to serve NHC parasites at government determined rates.  So shareholders and parasites will have to share beds.

A few of these healthcare companies are trying to grow their business overseas and are burning their fingers.

Except for that if you haven't noticed you are in a bear market.

Look at the NASDAQ it is down about 8% this month - US sneeze, SA gets bronchitis.

Gather your cash and earn interest for now,  but keep it ready. 

 

To be clear.  I am not contradicting Polly but fully support her view that investing in any healthcare at this point is suicidal (not hospital bed required)


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#210 Lionelza1

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:35 PM

:D  :lol:  :ph34r:

 

Only as serious as u make it out top be. 

 

Its like picking black or red at casino...not

Its like scratching your balls to get a hunch. not

Watching every one cent move. not

Waiting for sens.not

Taking advise from follow circus clowns.not

Jumping in and then out when price goes against you when you suppose to be a long term investor.not

Adding to a losing trade.not

 

However if you continue to to do above , your DAD will have to take care of you.

 

lol im praying he hears me  :D

 

 

Yea that was not good but lesson learnt 

 

your input helps when my balls do not talk back .....so come back to the thread?  :D


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#211 JK001

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:35 PM

:D  :lol:  :ph34r:

 

Only as serious as u make it out top be. 

 

Its like picking black or red at casino...not

Its like scratching your balls to get a hunch. not

Watching every one cent move. not

Waiting for sens.not

Taking advise from follow circus clowns.not

Jumping in and then out when price goes against you when you suppose to be a long term investor.not

Adding to a losing trade.not

 

However if you continue to to do above , your DAD will have to take care of you.

 

Again Polly is right. 

 

Dude or Dudette, do your homework:

No new hospital licenses are issued, so there is no or little domestic growth opportunity. 

Little chance of them cutting bottom line as medical suppliers have their 'own' CPI, meaning increased costs for hospitals that is difficult to pass on to consumers cause the parasites already sucked them dry.

New intended National Health Care (that has no funding yet, but sure to come out of YOUR pocket) will force private hospitals to serve NHC parasites at government determined rates.  So shareholders and parasites will have to share beds.

A few of these healthcare companies are trying to grow their business overseas and are burning their fingers.

Except for that if you haven't noticed you are in a bear market.

Look at the NASDAQ it is down about 8% this month - US sneeze, SA gets bronchitis.

Gather your cash and earn interest for now,  but keep it ready. 


Edited by JK001, 18 October 2018 - 07:36 PM.

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#212 Polly

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:13 PM

Playing the markets is serious business OK... Please dont joke about it

:D  :lol:  :ph34r:

 

Only as serious as u make it out top be. 

 

Its like picking black or red at casino...not

Its like scratching your balls to get a hunch. not

Watching every one cent move. not

Waiting for sens.not

Taking advise from follow circus clowns.not

Jumping in and then out when price goes against you when you suppose to be a long term investor.not

Adding to a losing trade.not

 

However if you continue to to do above , your DAD will have to take care of you.


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#213 Lionelza1

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 06:50 PM

Playing the markets is serious business OK... Please dont joke about it
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#214 Polly

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 05:38 PM

If you visit a mediclinic hospital, makes you wonder whos sleeping on those beds. Sick patients or mediclinc shareholders... :P

and if you throw in MF , u wonder why they selling a lot of beds now.

 

Must be all those steinhoff punters trying to blame old bed for sleepless nights!!!


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Posted 18 October 2018 - 03:18 PM

If you visit a mediclinic hospital, makes you wonder whos sleeping on those beds. Sick patients or mediclinc shareholders... :P


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Posted 28 September 2018 - 03:33 PM

Exactly... Buy on dip...

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Posted 28 September 2018 - 02:05 PM

Buy these on the dip.... All shares hammered for fear of future growth. Defensive share and good for portfolio...


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No way..check the results out on Netcarre and Life healthcare yesterday...hammered


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Posted 28 September 2018 - 02:04 PM

Buy these on the dip.... All shares hammered for fear of future growth. Defensive share and good for portfolio...


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 10:15 AM

Will try to buy some of the hospital group shares on dip and then dump on day of results taking 5% spike.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 08:14 PM

Shorting all hospital group shares for h2

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