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#341 Ms Jet

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 03:32 PM

Waiting patiently for approx 2600...and not spending my share budget on anything else...when satrix nasdaq drops going to do some shopping there too
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 09:00 PM

Yes aware you need cash in at some point
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 08:38 PM

Just remember Naspers is not a share you can live off at old age from a dividend perspective (unless you do the R30+ million buy option, which is slightly out of my budget - about 98%).  You have to sell shares to make a profit and the dreadful taxes that goes with it because you have to feed the entitled parasites. In short the growth in value is not equal to the growth in dividends, looks good on book value and great for fund investors that suspiciously looks like they pay staff salaries using hypnotized pension funds monthly contributors money with the false pretense of tax benefits.  Value is only liquidity when you sell it or earn dividends from it, otherwise it is just a digital entry in someones shareholders equity.


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#344 Ms Jet

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:37 PM

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:16 PM

Jk if you have anymore input re npn buy levels please let me know...i want more and edging up again...maybe drop later in week...this is 1 share i really want more of.

The current trend is downward with a few resistance levels on both up and down.  Active traders can benefit from this volatility.  Although there has been a 'slight' break-away from tencent realistically it is still the anchor to the NPN share.  From a tencent perspective still a lot of downside.  Inability to launch new games, restriction from big brother on how much and how long kids may play, but tencent made massive investments across the globe for future growth (even bought 5% stake in Tesla - probably good in long term). There is a huge cultural issue at play here:  Western world do not want government interfering with freedom of choice (That is why you see the backlash on Facebook), for Chinese people freedom of speech and choice is a limited edition and since they are brought up that way, they are ok with it. 

But traders like in the corporate world work with scorecards for short term gains - so tencent gets punished.  That said it really looks like it will get punished maybe another 20% down in the next 3 months. 

Then there is the trump factor: right or wrong, actually the Chinese is making it hard for foreigners to do business, google can operate, but has to be censored.  So, trump is trying to level the playing field - investors dislike uncertainty with the attitude of 'there something better to buy'.  Result is a bear market in China.

Then there is our own political play gains for next year's election that doesn't really attract foreign investment.

I don't think Polly is far off with 2560, unless tencent or the 30 odd analysts covering it, come out with some interim results or prediction it is going to be hard stopping the trend.

On the upside - value of NPN is about 5000 a share.  So you can buy anytime you want to now and you will be handsomely rewarded in future - but in good human nature we want the best price to maximize returns.   I will hold back to below 3000, and if it does not go below 3000 or even 2800, then I will blame stupid and curse myself for a week or so.


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Posted 25 September 2018 - 04:39 PM

Jk if you have anymore input re npn buy levels please let me know...i want more and edging up again...maybe drop later in week...this is 1 share i really want more of.
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 01:20 PM

buyers are covering, the bottom is still way beyond the horizon

Do you also think the bottom is less than 3000 Rand or whereabouts....I just cant picture that?


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Posted 25 September 2018 - 11:54 AM

Im same.but let it drop and then we buy...itll be temporary ceo didnt buy 32 million rands worth for nothing

 

buyers are covering, the bottom is still way beyond the horizon


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Posted 25 September 2018 - 09:03 AM

I dont think ill be waiting to then could miss the boat...3000 sounds good
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Posted 25 September 2018 - 05:33 AM

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Buying levels:

 

1. on  a weekly close above R3600  Ie break of resistance

 

2.  on minor support level R3000.00

 

3. Ideal buying level will be about R2560.00

 

 

Sell levels..

 

1. around resistance of R3600.00

 

2. break of R3000 to downside

 

3. go big short on break of R2560.00

fixed the typo to R3000 break

Not sure that it will go down to R 2560 though


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 08:22 PM

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Buying levels:

 

1. on  a weekly close above R3600  Ie break of resistance

 

2.  on minor support level R3000.00

 

3. Ideal buying level will be about R2560.00

 

 

Sell levels..

 

1. around resistance of R3600.00

 

2. break of R30000 to downside

 

3. go big short on break of R2560.00


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:23 PM

See my new topic on Mix Telematics (MIX), think it is a good growth share although slightly pricey.


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:03 PM

Im same.but let it drop and then we buy...itll be temporary ceo didnt buy 32 million rands worth for nothing 😂
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:59 PM

Cool..im not in rush would rather buy good price..snh looking interesting tonight...but ill look at tencent tommorrow am...3000 to 3100 for npn would be great? Do you agree?

Yip, think that would be good call.  On the one hand hope it does not go lower (estimate now down 3-4 percent by early Sep)  cause I have some shares in there on the other hand hope it goes lower so I can get more for cheap. 


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:39 PM

Cool..im not in rush would rather buy good price..snh looking interesting tonight...but ill look at tencent tommorrow am...3000 to 3100 for npn would be great? Do you agree?
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:31 PM

Jk nearly down 2 percent today..tencent. so presume cayyu through jse tommorrow...hoing buy more this week to hold..but no rish nuy just want cheap as possible

Signals are not so good at this point Jet.  I am going to hold back a bit more :-).    Tencent and NSPY  down in US too.  So, we'll start at a negative if persisting.


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 08:58 AM

Jk nearly down 2 percent today..tencent. so presume cayyu through jse tommorrow...hoing buy more this week to hold..but no rish nuy just want cheap as possible
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Posted 23 September 2018 - 07:57 PM

JK Snippit, polly IN..any prediction on a low i can buy in last week September..i can eait longer but think longer i eait higher itll go...i want buy more...see van dyk even bought loads last week but got in 3165..about 3240 at mo...obviosly want try for a low dip next week....help ?

 

My view it is going to drop about 2% or more towards end of september.  There has been a lot of activity on Tencent with a few days going up with increasing volume.  possiblle turn, but negatives are Trump and long term down trend on Tencent.  Best guess, if you have shares hold, if you in for longer term buy.  But last week in September, even early October is a good call.  Because of the structure of Naspers you do not earn a truck load of dividends, so you have to sell shares to make something.  So consistently over the last months investors has over month end sell Naspers (maybe to pay salaries or whatever).   But since the last Tencent financials a bit hectic and I cannot yet determine a consistent pattern. It is a solid share and I use it as an anchor to cover the underdogs :-)


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 04:32 PM

Correction 32 million rand worth shares..
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Posted 23 September 2018 - 04:21 PM

CEO....bought 32 million shares on Thursday....id presume that wasnt a marketing ploy...something beautiful going happen in.next months id say
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