My take it will come out after closed because there will be lots to digest however we could get a surprise just before close.
and again....
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:51 PM
My take it will come out after closed because there will be lots to digest however we could get a surprise just before close.
and again....
Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:51 PM
Yes I agree but I think due to algorithm trading it could make trading very volatile so by posting after Tradegate closes they avoid that. That's what I think!
wrong again neh!!!
Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:50 PM
Yes agreed the numbers are looking promising and they have a plan.
EBITDA from continuing operations : 393
EBITDA from discontinuing operations : 7 (However once off cost to restructure where 75)
So in total we have an EBITDA of 475 Mil €.
Operating profit came in at 259 and 7 (75) = 341 Operating profit.
These numbers are exceptional given the current situation Steinhoff is in.
As soon as the debt levels will be reduced Steinhoof will be profitable again.
Cash and cash equivalent increased to 1733 Mil €
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:41 PM
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:36 PM
DTF im too busy printing money to worry about your comments for now....Wait till tonight or tomorrow because you may need another nappy change again!!!!
Rest assured you mean nothing to me and from this moment that I have identified you have a split personality and a real fraud hiding behind various identities!!!.
Printing money this is what I am talking about your signature tell it all.
Big time investor always winning any newbie with just a small brain will see what a fraud and TROLL you are. Finished talking!!!!
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:25 PM
You know what they say "Give a person enough rope he will hang himself" so go on you seem to forget people are reading and eventually you will only talk to your identities!!! Which I believe has been a number of cases in various threads!!! Maybe I should get my Jewish friends to come pass and say hello!!! (I believe they already know quite a lot about you) Hahaha
To all Polly followers and newbies,
I want to bring to your attention that you are dealing with a identity in this instance Polly that comes in the chatroom with other identities so be very careful.
I am one of those she (has we getting close to identify her its just a matter of time) is referring as GURU.
Now let me tell you I don't consider myself any GURU I am just a simple person that have a mind and as such can generate an opinion. I am now being insulted for the right to have an opinion. I am also being called a fraud simply because I hold a long position in SNH and at same time do day trading that by the way your teacher has great difficulty understanding what is a day trader.
As a newbie you should know that investing from tips on chatroom is very dangerous you need to do your own home work.
See below Polly signature on her Post:
"Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
So lets brake it down to see what she is really saying:
1 - Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you - This implies that there are people pushing their point thus not opinions
2 - “be careful of con artists/scammers.” - A person which is a con is warning you about it self.
Well the good news is that is exactly what we have here Polly always taking care of the children (warning you all) and all the people referred as GURUS have never come across with any intention to be a GURU and only have posted their thought is order to exchange ideas.
So go on listen to your teacher but be warned!!!! Read the posts and judge for yourself. Don't get caught out buying shares on tips!!!!
DTF im too busy printing money to worry about your comments for now....Wait till tonight or tomorrow because you may need another nappy change again!!!!
Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
Posted 12 July 2019 - 12:35 PM
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:57 AM
Another important thing today should be the announcement of the Implementation Conditions Notice.
Insert from last update:
"It is also expected that once the Implementation Conditions Notice is issued, the closing of the Restructuring will occur approximately 20 Business Days later."
Monday is the first day of the 20 if the CVA going to be done by the 9th August!
Any thoughts on this?
Will the notice be published on SENS or only in LUCID?
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:37 AM
My guess is that they will publish after 10 pm tonight when Tradegate is closed. Don't ask me why they are doing this to Shareholders. Best thing would be to publish them at 9 am so that everyone can Benefit from it.
Yes I agree but I think due to algorithm trading it could make trading very volatile so by posting after Tradegate closes they avoid that. That's what I think!
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:36 AM
H1 2019...wonder when this will get published...hope not 530pm or 7pm sa time.
Be good to see the writeup in the report with guidance on the progress of tje resrructuring and the company strategy for growth.
Be good to see a glimpse into some of the discussions with the legal entities and considerations.
And it will be even better if snh management can provide a debt management forecast with strategy .
Good luck all
Sent from my SM-G950F using Sharenet Sharechat mobile app
My take it will come out after closed because there will be lots to digest however we could get a surprise just before close.
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:31 AM
H1 2019...wonder when this will get published...hope not 530pm or 7pm sa time.
Be good to see the writeup in the report with guidance on the progress of tje resrructuring and the company strategy for growth.
Be good to see a glimpse into some of the discussions with the legal entities and considerations.
And it will be even better if snh management can provide a debt management forecast with strategy .
Good luck all
Sent from my SM-G950F using Sharenet Sharechat mobile app
My guess is that they will publish after 10 pm tonight when Tradegate is closed. Don't ask me why they are doing this to Shareholders. Best thing would be to publish them at 9 am so that everyone can Benefit from it.
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:15 AM
You know what they say "Give a person enough rope he will hang himself" so go on you seem to forget people are reading and eventually you will only talk to your identities!!! Which I believe has been a number of cases in various threads!!! Maybe I should get my Jewish friends to come pass and say hello!!! (I believe they already know quite a lot about you) Hahaha
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:03 AM
Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:00 AM
Hi JK001 yes in normal forums where people are free to have an opinion and respect each other would not be necessary but when one is dealing with people that have split personality and various identities one has no other option.
Well congratulations you now have joined the GURU club!!!
wrong again....+
Polly, on 21 Mar 2019 - 2:51 PM, said:
Now dear Polly is a retired esteemed accountant with a low quarter to empty glass, and like so many other vultures always scanning for a carcass and if not dead praying for it to die. Motherhood statement like above with no substance. Follow his advise (buy MCZ or Grand Parade etc.) if you want to wait many many years for a ROI. So cool how he and religious followers puke on this post and then go do the little girl gossip on his 'help desk' (the gospel choir) - see for yourself how much helpdesk and how much yarra yarra.
Hat off to SNH current management that have relentlessly worked to restore equilibrium to all vested parties amid negative press and the Polly drones. Leadership has significant Law experience and is playing it by the book and good old SA loves to kick a lying dog.
IMHO SNH still have some challenges, compared to the challenges management conquered these are little humps.
Additionally, in parallel there are significant opportunities now to optimize operations across these federated businesses and make no mistake the retail industry is having a hard time with the slowing worldwide economy. E-commerce is a major disruption for retail, but SNH have fantastic App in Australia that could be retrofitted across geographies.
SNH appeal and specifically in the Pepkor line(locally and internationally) caters exactly for the cost aware market and scaling is impressive.
In the corporate world things don't move that fast because of all the check and balances built in, thus be patient if dates are liquid(the only good advise I have seen from Polly).
Am well invested in SNH for the long and accumulate when the opportunity occurs because of the potential and specifically management perseverance and bottom line synergies with a clear understanding of risk/reward ratio.
You make your own investment decisions taking into account all known facts and some ambiguous information.
Check insults...then check the pumps....like so easy to invest here and make money...1+1 22 2 +2 =4... 4+4 = 11??? and youll make milllions ...
Did the same for BLU....all talk , all fishing....go see Blu thread....and when price he pumped around R8.00 , i said ll dip in at R4.00.....
Nice to have him back like before and ill take him on...anytime...
Another Guru i warned about!! completely misleads.....
Polly, on 25 Mar 2019 - 4:29 PM, said:
and the attacks continue,....what else is new ???
Guys go see all 3 so called gurus post.....any negative snh posts are attacked with hate , vigor , and non sense.....All premeditated by these 3...think they one club... oops of cos..the seeking alpha club....and then they reflect it on others...each and every post....
I have nothing to prove on this forum...absolutely nothing...
What a bunch of wankers....
Edited by Polly, 12 July 2019 - 10:01 AM.
Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:57 AM
there you go forum members...the 3rd of the GURU stooges makes his his appearance!!
so much for this transformation!!
newbies these 3 are misleading youll big time!! and they insult , name call and character assassinate anyone who provides an alternative view!!
To all Polly followers and newbies,
I want to bring to your attention that you are dealing with a identity in this instance Polly that comes in the chatroom with other identities so be very careful.
I am one of those she (has we getting close to identify her its just a matter of time) is referring as GURU.
Now let me tell you I don't consider myself any GURU I am just a simple person that have a mind and as such can generate an opinion. I am now being insulted for the right to have an opinion. I am also being called a fraud simply because I hold a long position in SNH and at same time do day trading that by the way your teacher has great difficulty understanding what is a day trader.
As a newbie you should know that investing from tips on chatroom is very dangerous you need to do your own home work.
See below Polly signature on her Post:
"Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
So lets brake it down to see what she is really saying:
1 - Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you - This implies that there are people pushing their point thus not opinions
2 - “be careful of con artists/scammers.” - A person which is a con is warning you about it self.
Well the good news is that is exactly what we have here Polly always taking care of the children (warning you all) and all the people referred as GURUS have never come across with any intention to be a GURU and only have posted their thought is order to exchange ideas.
So go on listen to your teacher but be warned!!!! Read the posts and judge for yourself. Don't get caught out buying shares on tips!!!!
Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:37 AM
No need to say this, semi-normal people on forum knows that. P&L should maybe just continue their duo on the x-'clean SNH' topic.
Perhaps not a bad deal: Let's talk about SNH on this topic, and whoever wants to use the 'new clean SNH' topic to cleanse and rehabilitate each other.
Hi JK001 yes in normal forums where people are free to have an opinion and respect each other would not be necessary but when one is dealing with people that have split personality and various identities one has no other option.
Well congratulations you now have joined the GURU club!!!
Posted 12 July 2019 - 08:55 AM
Looking at the opening on Tradegate this morning I think nothing has leaked the market yet. Will be an interesting day today once we receive the AFS. Hopefully we will get a notice regarding the CVA as well.
Posted 12 July 2019 - 08:45 AM
No need to say this, semi-normal people on forum knows that. P&L should maybe just continue their duo on the x-'clean SNH' topic.
Perhaps not a bad deal: Let's talk about SNH on this topic, and whoever wants to use the 'new clean SNH' topic to cleanse and rehabilitate each other.
there you go forum members...the 3rd of the GURU stooges makes his his appearance!!
so much for this transformation!!
newbies these 3 are misleading youll big time!! and they insult , name call and character assassinate anyone who provides an alternative view!!
Trading is one of the only fields where genuine con artists/scammers will urge you to “be careful of con artists/scammers.”
Posted 11 July 2019 - 06:36 PM
Anyway just my thoughts not intended to defraud people or make people buy SNH shares!!!
No need to say this, semi-normal people on forum knows that. P&L should maybe just continue their duo on the x-'clean SNH' topic.
Perhaps not a bad deal: Let's talk about SNH on this topic, and whoever wants to use the 'new clean SNH' topic to cleanse and rehabilitate each other.
Edited by JK001, 11 July 2019 - 06:38 PM.
Posted 11 July 2019 - 06:14 PM
DTD, why do you think they would sell off more of their core business? That would make no sense at all.
While back I read a article that a fund manager said he was expecting a sale. If you think about it it makes business sense to sell to the 51% because dividend yield is only 1.5% way below the interest they paying of 10%.
Further if MF takes the E2.9 bil, Confo the E1.6 bil Greenlit E0.4 bil then debt left is E3 bil and the sale of the PPH 20% would bring about E0.7 bil which would leave a debt of E2.3 bil. As we discussed before Pepkor Eu is to list in time and if they sell 49% would maybe bring in E2 bil that would leave a debt of E0.6 bil which would be payable from future dividends or sale of 49% of Greenlit Brands.
Anyway just my thoughts not intended to defraud people or make people buy SNH shares!!!