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[jaDEB]

Just doubled up my short @ R62.00!!

 

HDB, please short OCE as well, I need it to go up. Thanks.

[HDB]

Just doubled up my short @ R62.00!!

[Cold Night]

Noooooooo! No discussion! You CML holders must never discuss it here! You will get a shouting at...

 

p.s. I am being sarcastic...

[MrDividend]

Past two days have been nice for us CML holders. Hope you didn't sell Orca!

 

So, err, can we expect R90 for Christmas....

 

[HDB]

http://www.sharechat...6263/#msg_96263

 

 

Marcos,

 

The auction has been explained by myself and others and if I remember correctly hdb posted a long detailed post on it before.

 

But you wouldnt know about this since you so fixated on CML that you hardly care to read other threads.

 

And you make baseless comments regarding people taking large sums of money out of SA and how it will impact on CML's AUM..

 

How do you know the money being withdrawn from SA was ever under CML's management?

 

Their international division made just over R200 000 000 in profit (before taxes and expenses) versus their African division that made in the region of R550 000 000

 

So even if there is a big outflow from international investors, the impact is relatively small since most of CML's money comes from Saffas..

 

So please refrain from making sweeping statements based on well.. thin air

Edited by HDB, 23 June 2013 - 02:39 PM.

[Perreby]

My apologies to Immobilier and Perreby for not quite understanding auctions. I have asked about this before but nobody bothered to reply.
There was no need to ridicule me for not knowing. Had the roles been reversed, I would have explained the process and not ridiculed the person. It is a shame that we find this happening on ShareChat.
And don't bother explaining now as I have been doing some reading on it.

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Marcos,

 

The auction has been explained by myself and others and if I remember correctly hdb posted a long detailed post on it before.

 

But you wouldnt know about this since you so fixated on CML that you hardly care to read other threads.

 

And you make baseless comments regarding people taking large sums of money out of SA and how it will impact on CML's AUM..

 

How do you know the money being withdrawn from SA was ever under CML's management?

 

Their international division made just over R200 000 000 in profit (before taxes and expenses) versus their African division that made in the region of R550 000 000

 

So even if there is a big outflow from international investors, the impact is relatively small since most of CML's money comes from Saffas..

 

So please refrain from making sweeping statements based on well.. thin air

[Geelstert]

My apologies to Immobilier and Perreby for not quite understanding auctions. I have asked about this before but nobody bothered to reply.
There was no need to ridicule me for not knowing. Had the roles been reversed, I would have explained the process and not ridiculed the person. It is a shame that we find this happening on ShareChat.
And don't bother explaining now as I have been doing some reading on it.

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I am with Orca on this one, but feel that it is unnecessary for Immobilier to make a stir on this thread. Many of us experienced a bad week with the market...

[Dabre]

Orca thank you for introducing me to CML you got the best info regarding CML:). You can't know everything but your input means a lot to someone like me:(

[orca]

Blind leading the blind you say. So you suggesting that I am leading blind investors to follow ME?
Excuse me for bringing this up but if I am so blind then why am I on top of the LeaderBoard by a long margin? Bragging you will say, but what other ammo do I have?
Perhaps I have been hyping CML up since 2009/10 when it was a relatively unknown stock and now is the most popular but surely this is not bad as we all made big bucks.
Sour grapes perhaps. I think you have stepped on some toes here.

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Edited by Orca, 22 June 2013 - 08:24 PM.

[Immobilier]

We are not ridiculing you. You have been doing it yourself for some time now. Blind leading the blind.

Immobilier, I am much more interested in your views on listed property, given the 20% odd correction.
Looks like there is some value now, unless bond yields keep on rising, which is of course possible should
further Rand weakening occur, resulting also in foreigners desire to withdraw (from the bond market here).

Hopefully you will find the time, and inclination, to impart your views ?

Edit: Plse. post reply under Property Stocks http://www.sharechat...roperty-stocks/

Moon, I have replied as requested. But my view (and perreby's comments) on friend Orca stands... Clueless.

Edited by Immobilier, 22 June 2013 - 07:38 PM.

[Moonraker]

We are not ridiculing you. You have been doing it yourself for some time now. Blind leading the blind.

 

Immobilier, I am much more interested in your views on listed property, given the 20% odd correction.

Looks like there is some value now, unless bond yields keep on rising, which is of course possible should

further Rand weakening occur, resulting also in foreigners desire to withdraw (from the bond market here).

 

Hopefully you will find the time, and inclination, to impart your views ?  

 

Edit: Plse. post reply under Property Stocks http://www.sharechat...roperty-stocks/

Edited by Moonraker, 22 June 2013 - 06:52 PM.

[Immobilier]

My apologies to Immobilier and Perreby for not quite understanding auctions. I have asked about this before but nobody bothered to reply.There was no need to ridicule me for not knowing. Had the roles been reversed, I would have explained the process and not ridiculed the person. It is a shame that we find this happening on ShareChat. And don't bother explaining now as I have been doing some reading on it.Sent from my GT-P7300 using Sharenet Sharechat mobile app

We are not ridiculing you. You have been doing it yourself for some time now. Blind leading the blind.

[orca]

My apologies to Immobilier and Perreby for not quite understanding auctions. I have asked about this before but nobody bothered to reply.
There was no need to ridicule me for not knowing. Had the roles been reversed, I would have explained the process and not ridiculed the person. It is a shame that we find this happening on ShareChat.
And don't bother explaining now as I have been doing some reading on it.

Sent from my GT-P7300 using Sharenet Sharechat mobile app

[Immobilier]

Was watching the close. Single buyers bidding R4 to R5M at over 6000 when the price was 5935. Was just crazy. The last 5 minutes the buy volumes jumped 20 fold.
Once again I haven't checked the OCP but I'm sure it will be over 6000. Hopefully there will be no late after hours trades to drop it.

Another prime example.

[Immobilier]

Clueless

Could not have said it better myself.

Edited by Immobilier, 22 June 2013 - 04:22 PM.

[Perreby]

Geez. That's an R80M trade at close for 6026. This guy must know more than we do.

Clueless

[Immobilier]

Geez. That's an R80M trade at close for 6026. This guy must know more than we do.

You clearly do not understand auction trades...

[HDB]

Geez. That's an R80M trade at close for 6026. This guy must know more than we do.

 

Heres WHL auction trade  

 

05:00:01  6011   1757889

 

Cash Value = R105m

 

MTN last auction trade makes CMLs trade look like petty cash!!

 

I dont see what all the noise is about!!

 

[orca]

Geez. That's an R80M trade at close for 6026. This guy must know more than we do.

[franz]

Was watching the close. Single buyers bidding R4 to R5M at over 6000 when the price was 5935. Was just crazy. The last 5 minutes the buy volumes jumped 20 fold.

Once again I haven't checked the OCP but I'm sure it will be over 6000. Hopefully there will be no late after hours trades to drop it.

 

Transaction Listings CML

 

 

Time PDT Buy Sell Sale Volume

17:35:41 OP     6026  9106  17:35:41 OP     5876  15612  17:00:15 AT     6026  1332674  17:00:15 OCP     6026    17:00:00 OP     5855  200000  17:00:00 OP     5855  200000  16:49:55 AT     5937  93  16:49:54 AT     5937  34  16:49:54 AT     5937  549  16:49:48 AT     5937  10  16:49:16 AT     5962  206  16:49:15 AT     5975  305  16:49:15 AT     5974  225  16:49:07 AT     5989  298  16:49:07 AT     5983  270  16:49:07 AT     5988  204  16:48:34 AT     5988  646  16:48:34 AT     5988  94  16:48:34 AT     5989  400